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That;s what's happening in Texas right now. Water is being sucked out faster than it's being replaced. Wells are running dry. I've no doubt that one day, with sufficient rain, that the water table will rebound, but for now it's making a lot of pumps gurgle. Ours included.

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So what if humans are pumping groundwater and it ends up in the oceans?:noidea: It will evaporate and return to the groundwater eventually.

Not if the rate of uptake is greater than the rate of re-fill, which is what is happening in a lot of places.

And that is happeneing in the US, Neb. The aquifer levels have been dropping for many years. However I don't remember seeing anywhere that show by data that the sea level is getting higher.

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So what if humans are pumping groundwater and it ends up in the oceans?:noidea: It will evaporate and return to the groundwater eventually.

Not if the rate of uptake is greater than the rate of re-fill, which is what is happening in a lot of places.

That doesn't make sense either if the premise of Global Warming is true. Were the earth becoming hotter the rate of absorption would take place at a faster clip. :thumbsup: The earth would in fact be a place that is more moist, thus more groundwater.:thumbsup:

The water is somwhere in the environment. Either it's locked up in ice, in the oceans and river systems, in the atmosphere, or under ground.:thumbsup:

Regardless, the process is constantly cycling.

Peace,

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So what if humans are pumping groundwater and it ends up in the oceans?:noidea: It will evaporate and return to the groundwater eventually.

Not if the rate of uptake is greater than the rate of re-fill, which is what is happening in a lot of places.

It really does not matter, we have big problems to worry about. Until we can prevent people from starving to death in Africa we shouldn't spend billions on the environment. It is disgusting, the money could have kept thousands of dead African kids alive.

There is a lot more water in our earths crust then all our oceans combined!!!! check it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6057382/Vast-oceans-lay-beneath-surface-of-the-Earth.html

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There is a lot more water in our earths crust then all our oceans combined!!!! check it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6057382/Vast-oceans-lay-beneath-surface-of-the-Earth.html

That's interesting!

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The Colorado River (a large river in the US for those in other parts of the world) barely flows into the ocean any more. We surely dont waste ground water to the ocean either. I disagree with this article.

If the water isn't carried in the rivers, then it's carried by the clouds to the ocean.

If you use a sprinkler to water your yard in the summer, half the water might evaporate the same day. And, then for the next several days, or weeks, the rest of the water will evaporate and the ground and plants will dry up without more water. Ground water isn't just the primary source of water for people in the country, but many cities have huge wells for their city water.

The fact is, the water tables around the world are much lower than they use to be. This water has gone someplace. and that someplace is the ocean.

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Our GAB has provided us with stacks of water for over 100 years. The intake is only at the exposed edges and this water travels very slowly at a few metres/year through the sandstone layer. It doesn't replenish as fast as it's being used unfortunatley.

Great Artesian Basin.

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The Colorado River (a large river in the US for those in other parts of the world) barely flows into the ocean any more. We surely dont waste ground water to the ocean either. I disagree with this article.

If the water isn't carried in the rivers, then it's carried by the clouds to the ocean.

If you use a sprinkler to water your yard in the summer, half the water might evaporate the same day. And, then for the next several days, or weeks, the rest of the water will evaporate and the ground and plants will dry up without more water. Ground water isn't just the primary source of water for people in the country, but many cities have huge wells for their city water.

The fact is, the water tables around the world are much lower than they use to be. This water has gone someplace. and that someplace is the ocean.

Think about this for a minute. If the water were in the ocean the ocean depths and levels would be greater and many cities along coasts worlwide would be flooded. This is not the case. Ocean levels have not risen. The only thing that would account for that is if the water is locked up in ice. However, the same folks peddling this Global Warming nonsense would tell you that glaciers are melting and polar bears are drowning. Which isn't the case either. So which one is it? Or is this stuff really just designed to do what it's doing here?:noidea:

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Think about this for a minute. If the water were in the ocean the ocean depths and levels would be greater and many cities along coasts worlwide would be flooded. This is not the case. Ocean levels have not risen.

The facts in evidence are that the sea level has risen and ground water levels have fallen. You are rejecting the facts without providing any rational justification for doing so. The OP attributes 1.26 centimeters of ocean level increase to the pumping of ground water. That's not enough to flood cities. However, the fact is, according to the OP, ocean levels have risen 17cm over the same period, which calls attention to your next unjustified assertion, that coastal cities are not being flooded. I'd bet that coastal cities have faced flooding that reflects a 17cm rise in ocean level.

Stop fighting facts.

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Think about this for a minute. If the water were in the ocean the ocean depths and levels would be greater and many cities along coasts worlwide would be flooded. This is not the case. Ocean levels have not risen.

The facts in evidence are that the sea level has risen and ground water levels have fallen. You are rejecting the facts without providing any rational justification for doing so. The OP attributes 1.26 centimeters of ocean level increase to the pumping of ground water. That's not enough to flood cities. However, the fact is, according to the OP, ocean levels have risen 17cm over the same period, which calls attention to your next unjustified assertion, that coastal cities are not being flooded. I'd bet that coastal cities have faced flooding that reflects a 17cm rise in ocean level.

Stop fighting facts.

Yes, there is a fact of sea levels rising, a few inches. Yes there is the fact of groundwater being depleted. What is in dispute is that they are related. Also you have said,

I'd bet that coastal cities have faced flooding that reflects a 17cm rise in ocean level.

With out providing evidence. You see we use groundwater, for cities and for farming. A lot of it if used in farming goes into the plants grown and evaporated back into the atmosphere, as for cities, people drink the water and use it for cooking cleaning etc, and the wast water goes to treatment plants where again a lot of it is lost to evaporation and recycled back on to farms etc.

The fact is this, you can not correlate the amount of groundwater levels are dropping with the rate the oceans are rising directly, there is no proof or evidence of this. There is no way to measure or track exactly how much groundwater is making it to the ocean in any direct amount. The title of the orginal article should show the political bias of said report. "Groundwater greed driving sea level rises"

This statement is not fact, nor did they show any corroborating evidence of such. They made assumptions based of of facts, this is akin to stating, John, who hates Edward is a murderer because Edward was killed in an act of murder. You see those are the only two facts you have, you can assume that just because John had a motive he is the killer. However with out providing further evidence you can not make this as a statement of fact.

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