Even More Calendars Predict End in 2012

[Bold Believer]

With all the hype about the ancient Mayan calendar suggesting the demise of human civilization taking place in 2012, an American author wants everyone to know that other calendars predict the same outcome, and he claims a demonic plot bringing about the end date could be hiding in plain sight inside the U.S. Capitol and your wallet right now.

Tom Horn, a Bible-believing Christian and author of "Apollyon Rising 2012," says he never actually had an interest in the Mayan calendar, which comes to a cyclical end on Dec. 21, 2012. But then he became aware of numerous unrelated calendars and prophecies spanning many centuries, all predicting the end of the current human age at next year's winter solstice.

"I started finding that it wasn't just the Maya," Horn told WND, noting prognostications from Jewish mystics, as well as the ancient Chinese, Hindus, Cherokee Indians, and even artwork among famous American symbols that all point to the same time frame.

Despite not having telescopes, the Mayan people of Central America were extremely accurate observers of celestial movements, with the zenith of their civilization occurring between A.D. 250 and 900.

"The Maya understood this procession of the equinox, basically not to end, but to roll over, to start over," in December 2012, Horn explained.

He says their prophets coupled that date "with prophecies of unrest on Earth after which a new form of man appears on Earth, plus the return of their dragon god, a flying serpent who has the power of air."

"The Aztec saw the same thing, a flying serpent, Quetzalcoatl," Horn said, adding, "their calendar ends in 2012."

He says the Kali Yuga calendar of the Hindus forecasts global changes around 2012, and China's "Book of Changes," also known as the "I-Ching," predicts the end for the same year.

A timeline graph created in 1973 based on China's Book of Changes, or I-Ching, shows the line plunging entirely off the graph precisely on Dec. 21, 2012.

Horn says 38 years ago, when scientists Terrence and Dennis McKenna created a stock-market-like linear graph based on the "I-Ching," the timeline abruptly plunged off the graph into infinity on precisely Dec. 21, 2012.

"This finding is all the more astonishing given that McKenna's research was published in 1973 independent of any knowledge of the ending date in the Mayan calendar," Horn noted.

Meanwhile, the Zohar, a collection of books in the mystical Jewish Kabbalah that first debuted in Spain in the 13th century, talks about the coming of the Messiah at the same general time the other calendars forecast the end.

It predicts in late 2012, "All the kings of the world will assemble in the great city of Rome, and the Holy One will shower on them fire and hail and meteoric stones until they are all destroyed, with the exception of those who will not yet have arrived there. These will commence anew to make other wars. From that time the Mashiach (Messiah) will begin to declare himself, and round him there will be gathered many nations and many hosts from the uttermost ends of the Earth."

Horn says, "Given the rejection of Jesus by orthodox Jews as Messiah, this coming could herald the coming of Antichrist in 2012."

What's perhaps most fascinating is Horn's discussion of what could be the mother of all conspiracy theories, dating back to the Bible's Book of Genesis, involving Noah's great grandson Nimrod, who not only built the famous Tower of Babel, but is the "mighty hunter" who scholars believe became worshipped as the sun god, with names such as Osiris in Egypt and Apollo in Greece.

Horn says from deepest antiquity, a plot involving pagan sun-worshippers, America's Founding Fathers, Masons and Freemasons has apparently been in the works, culminating in the end time with the return or resurrection of an evil, supernatural being. That character may actually be pictured as the all-seeing eye on top of the uncapped pyramid on the Great Seal of the United States, found on the back of a $1 bill.

Others have speculated the eye on top of the pyramid could be a representation of Jesus Christ, since the Bible notes, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone." (Psalm 118:22 New International Version).

The date at the base of the pyramid is 1776, which is not only the year the Declaration of Independence was signed, but also the beginning of a new Mayan "katun," a time period of 19.7 years. If each of the 13 levels of the pyramid on the Great Seal represents one of these time periods, the top level would mark the year 2012.

The Latin phrase "Novus ordo seclorum" is part of the American seal, and translates to "New order of the ages," which some fear is what many U.S. presidents, including George Herbert Walker Bush, allude to when they use the phrase, "New World Order."

Other strange connections to the United States include the Frieze of American History, a painted panorama at the U.S. Capitol.

Among the artwork is "Cortez and Montezuma at Mexican Temple" by Italian artist Constantino Brumidi.

Montezuma is shown gesturing to the sacred fire with a serpent wrapped around it. According to the Aztec calendar, the fire is predicted to burn out on Dec. 21, 2012.

It depicts Spanish explorer Hernando Cortez, the conqueror of Mexico, entering the Aztec temple in 1519. He's welcomed by Emperor Montezuma II, who thought Cortez was a god.

"Montezuma's hand is pointing directly down at the sacred fire, which, in point of fact, goes out ... Dec. 21, 2012, the end of the calendar," Horn noted.

Also featured in the frieze is the Aztec calendar stone, and the sun god Tonatiuh, to whom pagan priests had 80,000 people sacrificed in the year of 1487 alone.

"Hiding in plain sight is the god who demands human sacrifice," said Horn.

He says another high-profile piece that may hold end-time clues is the famous painting in the Rotunda of the Capitol, titled "The Apotheosis of George Washington." The word "apotheosis" means to deify or elevate to divine status, and Washington is depicted being resurrected and becoming divine.

The U.S. Capitol Rotunda features "The Apotheosis of George Washington," with America's first president becoming glorified as a god, along with numerous pagan gods.

But Horn notes in "Apollyon Rising 2012":

Those who believe the United States was founded on Christianity and visit the Capitol for the first time will be surprised by the stark contrast to historic Christian artwork of the ascension of Jesus Christ compared to the "heaven" George Washington rises into from within the energized Capitol Dome/womb of Isis. It is not occupied by angels, but with devils and pagan deities important to Masonic belief. These include Hermes, Neptune, Venus (Isis), Ceres, Minerva, and Vulcan (Satan), of course, the son of Jupiter and Juno to which human sacrifices are made.

Horn says the symbolism in the painting associated with the deeply rooted idea that chosen humans are selected by supernatural forces, and their earthly kingdoms are formed and guided by these pagan gods.

Washington was himself a Mason, and, according to the book "The Age of Washington" by George W. Nordham, the president was dressed in Masonic attire as he laid the cornerstone of the U.S. Capitol on Sept. 18, 1793.

When it comes to biblical references to the end, a central theme is that Jesus Christ will be returning to Earth in what is often referred to as the "Second Coming" to administer the kingdom of God. While Scripture does not provide a specific date for "the day of the Lord" as it's often called, it does suggest everyone be ready at all times, because His return would come suddenly, like "a thief in the night," and Jesus Himself warned to "be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect." (Matthew 24:44 New King James Version)

The 24th chapter of the Gospel of Matthew features Jesus answering his apostles' questions about signs of His coming and the end of the current age, and Jesus provides a laundry list of events including wars and rumors of wars, false Christs, famines, pestilences, earthquakes and great tribulation, with many believers being slain.

Jesus noted, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 King James Version)

He also said: "The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about – the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place." (Reader, pay attention!) "Then those in Judea must flee to the hills." (Matthew 24:15-16 New Living Translation)

This reference to the "Holy Place" has many believing that a new temple of God will have to be constructed in Jerusalem before Jesus' return.

Some Christians, such as Noel Hornor of the Good News Magazine, think the 2012 prognostications are the result of misplaced fears and reliance on pagan systems rather than the Bible itself.

Hornor writes: "Yes, Dec. 21, 2012, will come and go, Dec. 22 will arrive, and the Earth will go on. And so will new theories regarding new exact dates for the end of the world. The cry has been shouted by strident voices for millennia, and you can be sure it will continue."

As for Tom Horn, he says he never places any pagan prophecy ahead of the Bible, but just wonders why so many different and unrelated civilizations talk about the end of days in December 2012.

"I would not say that I'm yet convinced that 2012 will be anything more than the next Y2K," he said, referring to the misplaced hysteria about the world coming to an end when 1999 turned into 2000.

"It's very easy to take extraordinary circumstances to interpret in Bible prophecy, and then it doesn't develop. There were lots of reasons to believe Hitler was the Antichrist. He wasn't. He was an antichrist, but not the Antichrist."

"All I can do is bring to the surface the good research," Horn concluded. "I'm kind of holding back, leaning today that 2012 isn't going to mean anything. But in the back of my mind, I can't forget all these cultures."

Prophecy News Watch has a limited numbers of copies left of the DVD - 2012: Prophecy or Panic? DVD that give a Christian perspective of the possible links between the year 2012 and Bible Prophecy.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/November22/2294.html

Novus Ordo Seclorum means New Secular Order, not New Order of the ages. Magog is the new secular order. Magog hates God and the things of God and the people of God. Magog hates religion, Magog is mankind unrestrained. That is what they're working toward, a little at a time. No restraints at all in conduct, most especially sexual conduct.

Mr. Horn will search for an antichrist dictator figure 'til he falls over dead but he won't find what isn't there. And Magog will continue to do what it's doing, right in front of his eyes, and he won't recognize it.

Mr. Horn is not the first man to write about the alleged conspiracy of Nimrod. Rev. Alexander Hislop wrote the book entitled The Two Babylons in which everything he is claiming to have found out is written. The publisher is Loizeau Brothers and I believe that copies are still available. I have one here in my library myself.

Two interesting things in this article grab my eye though, and I quote them here:

He says their prophets coupled that date "with prophecies of unrest on Earth after which a new form of man appears on Earth, plus the return of their dragon god, a flying serpent who has the power of air."

Notice very carefully the wording: ..."after which a new form of man appears on Earth, plus the return of their dragon god, a flying serpent who has the power of air." Not "After which a man appears on Earth to lead them", which would be indicative of a singular antichrist dictator, but "a new form of man". What Paul called the man of sin (or man of lawlessness if you prefer) and what John called Magog, (who are led by their dragon god, Gog, who is Satan). Sounds conspicuously like Revelation 20 to me. Interesting that Mr. Horn worded things in the manner he did.

And the second one:

Meanwhile, the Zohar, a collection of books in the mystical Jewish Kabbalah that first debuted in Spain in the 13th century, talks about the coming of the Messiah at the same general time the other calendars forecast the end.

It predicts in late 2012, "All the kings of the world will assemble in the great city of Rome, and the Holy One will shower on them fire and hail and meteoric stones until they are all destroyed, with the exception of those who will not yet have arrived there. These will commence anew to make other wars. From that time the Mashiach (Messiah) will begin to declare himself, and round him there will be gathered many nations and many hosts from the uttermost ends of the Earth." Again, while not quite perfectly in line with Scripture, this too sounds conspiciously like Revelation 20. The fact is that all of the evil men of earth will be burned up, along with the earth and the works which are in it (Rev 20, 2 Peter 3). Interesting indeed.

[nebula]

If you remember rightly it was you that demanded me to say if what I stated was a spiritual revelation from God.

The reason I originally didn't, was cause I had no intention to brag, like a false prophet....but you couldn't see that, could you.

This is what I asked:

would you please have the courtesy to state the evidences to your claim?

I wasn't demanding you to say if what you stated was a spiritual revelation from God.

I was asking for evidence - confirmation - to what you were proclaiming.

Do you believe this to be un-Scriptural? Are we to believe anyone who claims to know the answer/have the revelation just on their say-so?

Your comment re my reaction to your response is demented, should there be no reaction to offensiveness?

Please provide the Scriptural support for lashing out at someone who "slaps" you?

Your reasoning reminds me Of the book of Romans when Paul says, Some might say, If by sinning we reveal and enhance Gods Holy glory, why does he still find fault in us?

Paul calls them foolish, because they don't repent but try to justify their beahiour through foolish reasoning.

For a person, claiming to be a Christian, struggling with sin is one thing (in your own life), but to choose to sin against a fellow believer and just call it, "oh a bit of jerky behavior on my part, "that's all," is sub-Christian. That's why Jesus spoke about the mill-stone hung around ones neck, a warning for those with no fear of God. The disrespectful and the dishonoring, exhibit unregenerate, worldly behavior, this should never be, out of a spring of water do we have bitter and sweet? Surely its wrong to justify this action.

Then why are you justifying your behavior?

Jesus' words were spiritual and were and still are spiritually discerned, see John 9:37, especially the pharisaic response.

For me to say the knowledge I have is God given is not arrogant, outrageous or necessarily false,, doesn't the Lord for- ordain all things that come to pass, is he not the revealer of mysteries, were not the prophecies of Daniel to be sealed UNTIL the Time of the END, then God must reveal their meaning in there day to some people. That's just plain logic.

I am still waiting for your witness to confirm this word is from the Lord.

[Bold Believer]

With all the hype about the ancient Mayan calendar suggesting the demise of human civilization taking place in 2012, an American author wants everyone to know that other calendars predict the same outcome, and he claims a demonic plot bringing about the end date could be hiding in plain sight inside the U.S. Capitol and your wallet right now.

Tom Horn, a Bible-believing Christian and author of "Apollyon Rising 2012," says he never actually had an interest in the Mayan calendar, which comes to a cyclical end on Dec. 21, 2012. But then he became aware of numerous unrelated calendars and prophecies spanning many centuries, all predicting the end of the current human age at next year's winter solstice.

"I started finding that it wasn't just the Maya," Horn told WND, noting prognostications from Jewish mystics, as well as the ancient Chinese, Hindus, Cherokee Indians, and even artwork among famous American symbols that all point to the same time frame.

Despite not having telescopes, the Mayan people of Central America were extremely accurate observers of celestial movements, with the zenith of their civilization occurring between A.D. 250 and 900.

"The Maya understood this procession of the equinox, basically not to end, but to roll over, to start over," in December 2012, Horn explained.

He says their prophets coupled that date "with prophecies of unrest on Earth after which a new form of man appears on Earth, plus the return of their dragon god, a flying serpent who has the power of air."

"The Aztec saw the same thing, a flying serpent, Quetzalcoatl," Horn said, adding, "their calendar ends in 2012."

He says the Kali Yuga calendar of the Hindus forecasts global changes around 2012, and China's "Book of Changes," also known as the "I-Ching," predicts the end for the same year.

A timeline graph created in 1973 based on China's Book of Changes, or I-Ching, shows the line plunging entirely off the graph precisely on Dec. 21, 2012.

Horn says 38 years ago, when scientists Terrence and Dennis McKenna created a stock-market-like linear graph based on the "I-Ching," the timeline abruptly plunged off the graph into infinity on precisely Dec. 21, 2012.

"This finding is all the more astonishing given that McKenna's research was published in 1973 independent of any knowledge of the ending date in the Mayan calendar," Horn noted.

Meanwhile, the Zohar, a collection of books in the mystical Jewish Kabbalah that first debuted in Spain in the 13th century, talks about the coming of the Messiah at the same general time the other calendars forecast the end.

It predicts in late 2012, "All the kings of the world will assemble in the great city of Rome, and the Holy One will shower on them fire and hail and meteoric stones until they are all destroyed, with the exception of those who will not yet have arrived there. These will commence anew to make other wars. From that time the Mashiach (Messiah) will begin to declare himself, and round him there will be gathered many nations and many hosts from the uttermost ends of the Earth."

Horn says, "Given the rejection of Jesus by orthodox Jews as Messiah, this coming could herald the coming of Antichrist in 2012."

What's perhaps most fascinating is Horn's discussion of what could be the mother of all conspiracy theories, dating back to the Bible's Book of Genesis, involving Noah's great grandson Nimrod, who not only built the famous Tower of Babel, but is the "mighty hunter" who scholars believe became worshipped as the sun god, with names such as Osiris in Egypt and Apollo in Greece.

Horn says from deepest antiquity, a plot involving pagan sun-worshippers, America's Founding Fathers, Masons and Freemasons has apparently been in the works, culminating in the end time with the return or resurrection of an evil, supernatural being. That character may actually be pictured as the all-seeing eye on top of the uncapped pyramid on the Great Seal of the United States, found on the back of a $1 bill.

Others have speculated the eye on top of the pyramid could be a representation of Jesus Christ, since the Bible notes, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone." (Psalm 118:22 New International Version).

The date at the base of the pyramid is 1776, which is not only the year the Declaration of Independence was signed, but also the beginning of a new Mayan "katun," a time period of 19.7 years. If each of the 13 levels of the pyramid on the Great Seal represents one of these time periods, the top level would mark the year 2012.

The Latin phrase "Novus ordo seclorum" is part of the American seal, and translates to "New order of the ages," which some fear is what many U.S. presidents, including George Herbert Walker Bush, allude to when they use the phrase, "New World Order."

Other strange connections to the United States include the Frieze of American History, a painted panorama at the U.S. Capitol.

Among the artwork is "Cortez and Montezuma at Mexican Temple" by Italian artist Constantino Brumidi.

Montezuma is shown gesturing to the sacred fire with a serpent wrapped around it. According to the Aztec calendar, the fire is predicted to burn out on Dec. 21, 2012.

It depicts Spanish explorer Hernando Cortez, the conqueror of Mexico, entering the Aztec temple in 1519. He's welcomed by Emperor Montezuma II, who thought Cortez was a god.

"Montezuma's hand is pointing directly down at the sacred fire, which, in point of fact, goes out ... Dec. 21, 2012, the end of the calendar," Horn noted.

Also featured in the frieze is the Aztec calendar stone, and the sun god Tonatiuh, to whom pagan priests had 80,000 people sacrificed in the year of 1487 alone.

"Hiding in plain sight is the god who demands human sacrifice," said Horn.

He says another high-profile piece that may hold end-time clues is the famous painting in the Rotunda of the Capitol, titled "The Apotheosis of George Washington." The word "apotheosis" means to deify or elevate to divine status, and Washington is depicted being resurrected and becoming divine.

The U.S. Capitol Rotunda features "The Apotheosis of George Washington," with America's first president becoming glorified as a god, along with numerous pagan gods.

But Horn notes in "Apollyon Rising 2012":

Those who believe the United States was founded on Christianity and visit the Capitol for the first time will be surprised by the stark contrast to historic Christian artwork of the ascension of Jesus Christ compared to the "heaven" George Washington rises into from within the energized Capitol Dome/womb of Isis. It is not occupied by angels, but with devils and pagan deities important to Masonic belief. These include Hermes, Neptune, Venus (Isis), Ceres, Minerva, and Vulcan (Satan), of course, the son of Jupiter and Juno to which human sacrifices are made.

Horn says the symbolism in the painting associated with the deeply rooted idea that chosen humans are selected by supernatural forces, and their earthly kingdoms are formed and guided by these pagan gods.

Washington was himself a Mason, and, according to the book "The Age of Washington" by George W. Nordham, the president was dressed in Masonic attire as he laid the cornerstone of the U.S. Capitol on Sept. 18, 1793.

When it comes to biblical references to the end, a central theme is that Jesus Christ will be returning to Earth in what is often referred to as the "Second Coming" to administer the kingdom of God. While Scripture does not provide a specific date for "the day of the Lord" as it's often called, it does suggest everyone be ready at all times, because His return would come suddenly, like "a thief in the night," and Jesus Himself warned to "be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect." (Matthew 24:44 New King James Version)

The 24th chapter of the Gospel of Matthew features Jesus answering his apostles' questions about signs of His coming and the end of the current age, and Jesus provides a laundry list of events including wars and rumors of wars, false Christs, famines, pestilences, earthquakes and great tribulation, with many believers being slain.

Jesus noted, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 King James Version)

He also said: "The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about – the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place." (Reader, pay attention!) "Then those in Judea must flee to the hills." (Matthew 24:15-16 New Living Translation)

This reference to the "Holy Place" has many believing that a new temple of God will have to be constructed in Jerusalem before Jesus' return.

Some Christians, such as Noel Hornor of the Good News Magazine, think the 2012 prognostications are the result of misplaced fears and reliance on pagan systems rather than the Bible itself.

Hornor writes: "Yes, Dec. 21, 2012, will come and go, Dec. 22 will arrive, and the Earth will go on. And so will new theories regarding new exact dates for the end of the world. The cry has been shouted by strident voices for millennia, and you can be sure it will continue."

As for Tom Horn, he says he never places any pagan prophecy ahead of the Bible, but just wonders why so many different and unrelated civilizations talk about the end of days in December 2012.

"I would not say that I'm yet convinced that 2012 will be anything more than the next Y2K," he said, referring to the misplaced hysteria about the world coming to an end when 1999 turned into 2000.

"It's very easy to take extraordinary circumstances to interpret in Bible prophecy, and then it doesn't develop. There were lots of reasons to believe Hitler was the Antichrist. He wasn't. He was an antichrist, but not the Antichrist."

"All I can do is bring to the surface the good research," Horn concluded. "I'm kind of holding back, leaning today that 2012 isn't going to mean anything. But in the back of my mind, I can't forget all these cultures."

Prophecy News Watch has a limited numbers of copies left of the DVD - 2012: Prophecy or Panic? DVD that give a Christian perspective of the possible links between the year 2012 and Bible Prophecy.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/November22/2294.html

Novus Ordo Seclorum means New Secular Order, not New Order of the ages. Magog is the new secular order. Magog hates God and the things of God and the people of God. Magog hates religion, Magog is mankind unrestrained. That is what they're working toward, a little at a time. No restraints at all in conduct, most especially sexual conduct.

Mr. Horn will search for an antichrist dictator figure 'til he falls over dead but he won't find what isn't there. And Magog will continue to do what it's doing, right in front of his eyes, and he won't recognize it.

Mr. Horn is not the first man to write about the alleged conspiracy of Nimrod. Rev. Alexander Hislop wrote the book entitled The Two Babylons in which everything he is claiming to have found out is written. The publisher is Loizeau Brothers and I believe that copies are still available. I have one here in my library myself.

Two interesting things in this article grab my eye though, and I quote them here:

He says their prophets coupled that date "with prophecies of unrest on Earth after which a new form of man appears on Earth, plus the return of their dragon god, a flying serpent who has the power of air."

Notice very carefully the wording: ..."after which a new form of man appears on Earth, plus the return of their dragon god, a flying serpent who has the power of air." Not "After which a man appears on Earth to lead them", which would be indicative of a singular antichrist dictator, but "a new form of man". What Paul called the man of sin (or man of lawlessness if you prefer) and what John called Magog, (who are led by their dragon god, Gog, who is Satan). Sounds conspicuously like Revelation 20 to me. Interesting that Mr. Horn worded things in the manner he did.

And the second one:

Meanwhile, the Zohar, a collection of books in the mystical Jewish Kabbalah that first debuted in Spain in the 13th century, talks about the coming of the Messiah at the same general time the other calendars forecast the end.

It predicts in late 2012, "All the kings of the world will assemble in the great city of Rome, and the Holy One will shower on them fire and hail and meteoric stones until they are all destroyed, with the exception of those who will not yet have arrived there. These will commence anew to make other wars. From that time the Mashiach (Messiah) will begin to declare himself, and round him there will be gathered many nations and many hosts from the uttermost ends of the Earth." Again, while not quite perfectly in line with Scripture, this too sounds conspiciously like Revelation 20. The fact is that all of the evil men of earth will be burned up, along with the earth and the works which are in it (Rev 20, 2 Peter 3). Interesting indeed.

The 24th chapter of the Gospel of Matthew features Jesus answering his apostles' questions about signs of His coming and the end of the current age, and Jesus provides a laundry list of events including wars and rumors of wars, false Christs, famines, pestilences, earthquakes and great tribulation, with many believers being slain.

Jesus noted, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 King James Version)

He also said: "The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about – the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place." (Reader, pay attention!) "Then those in Judea must flee to the hills." (Matthew 24:15-16 New Living Translation)

The end of the current age to THEM. Those things, including the abomination which makes desolate, occurred in AD 70 at Jerusalem's destruction. After Nero's death, the entire Roman Empire was rocked by civil war and rumors of war. False Christs came about, most notably Bar Kochba who initiated the Bar Kochba rebellion. Jerusalem and the Jews DID in fact experience great tribulation during the siege and I invite you to read Josephus' account of it.

The NLTs translation of Mt 24:15 and 16 is pretty poor quite frankly. It takes out 'the abomination which makes desolate' and substitutes sacrilegious object, which reduces the force of what Jesus (and Daniel before him) were getting at. It was no mere object (such as an idol) which stood in the holy place, but the pagan Roman army! Those pagan soldiers dared to walk into the very temple of God and lay waste to it and God allowed them to do it (as Daniel so succinctly put it) "for the overspreading of abominations". God was reckoning those pagan troops as being morally superior to the unrepentant Israelis who had rejected their Messiah.

Notice also that after the tribulation of those days the Gospel still had to be preached to the world as a witness to all the nations. There was still work to be done before the end could come. And the Gospel was preached and many nations and people came to Christ. There are only a few scant areas which have not heard the Gospel of Christ. Satan was powerless to stop the Gospel from going out into the world (what Rev 20 calls being bound to deceive the nations no longer). But now, Satan is loosed. Why do you think that such types of evil are being committed across the planet? It isn't that they've never been done, it's the scale at which they're being done. Why do you think that Christians are being persecuted on such a wide scale? It's Gog leading Magog.

[Isaiah 6:8]

This thread has become personal. Closed for review.