The pupil has gone; the master has arrived

[Leonard]

Papa's Angel:

It is very sweet and tender of you to care for Nebuchadnezzar's feelings, but at my state of advanced superannuation, I've just decided life is too short to pussy-foot with the spirit of the antichrist.

Nebuchadnezzar is--like his namesake--an inveterate Jew hater who has deceived himself into siding with pure evil.

Other than that I am most charitably disposed toward him!

Postus Scripti: I know it will be heart-breaking for many of you, but the great ME, I MYSELF, will not have internet access for at least a week, so I sign off for now with Blessings toward all....even Neb!

[followerofjesus]

I'm a little confused here on who is the pupil & who is the master?

[Scudbuddy]

Neb,

Is this true? I have had issue with you over Cessationism and demons, but this is a whole nother catagory. I would like to hear your side first. Not saying Leo is a liar, but two or more witnesses is demanded. But it would be all clear if you would say something about this.

[georgesbluegirl]

Its not about oil, money etc. Its about ridding a people of a dictator that has systematically murdered anyone who dares cross him and pushing his evilness on the world.

Nobody should be that naive. Our "do-gooder" traits were appealed to in the mission in Iraq, but politically, oil definitely played a role. That's the politics of war: self-interest.

Why is it the most far out wacky Right propaganda can be put out and no one says anything about it, but as soon as a radically different view emerges it's shot down? Maybe it's my Monday Paranoia.

[papasangel]

not being niave. Just posted fact. And remember a little paranoia can be a good thing sometimes

[georgesbluegirl]

Don't worry about me, I'm more than a little paranoid.

The "fact" is that Iraq is not simply about an "evil dicatator" - no war is ever that simple, and this one is a far cry from straightforward.

[ted]

The "fact" is that Iraq is not simply about an "evil dicatator" - no war is ever that simple, and this one is a far cry from straightforward.

You are correct.

It's about an "evil dictator" that "lied" to us and the "UN" over "17" times and just couldn't "see" that the "world" was not going to "take it" anymore.

Except "France" and "Germany" and "Russia" who had their "hands" in Sadams back pocket in the oil for food "scandal" and were going to lose "billions" if he was ousted.

t.

[Scudbuddy]

Its not about oil, money etc. Its about ridding a people of a dictator that has systematically murdered anyone who dares cross him and pushing his evilness on the world.

Nobody should be that naive. Our "do-gooder" traits were appealed to in the mission in Iraq, but politically, oil definitely played a role. That's the politics of war: self-interest.

Why is it the most far out wacky Right propaganda can be put out and no one says anything about it, but as soon as a radically different view emerges it's shot down? Maybe it's my Monday Paranoia.

Here is why it is not about oil. How much easier would it have been to just ignore Saddams crimes, and just work with him like the UN did (Oil for food scandal) and get the oil for real cheap. This war could cost Bush the Presidency, and it has made it harder to get Iraqi oil. Not easier. These gasoline prices are not helping Bush at all. If this is his scheme, wow. Any one of his staff could have told him war is not good for votes if it last a long time, and it is not good if oil goes up in price. And the Russians are willing to sell their oil much cheaper than Iraq because they are desperate right now.

In the meantime, all the liberals who point toward Bush and Oil ignore the Oil for food scandal. The very organization that they want in charge of any war in Iraq is the very organization up to their eyeballs in being paid off to ignore what Saddam was doing. They refused to enforce their own referendums because Saddam was giving them huge personal pay-offs. That is not rumor. That is documented, and after the election, you will find Koffi and others being pressed hard about this. The press which is liberal is doing their best to ignore this so as not to validate Bush's reluctance to rely on the UN.