Speaking The Oracles of God

[Matthitjah]

Point of order;

That means that if we are regularly in tune with the Father, and with the mind of Christ. Spontaneously living the Christ-life, we will be ready always to give an answer – His answer of truth to those that ask! V

Earlier in this thread you appear to advocate complete sanctification and reject any works that we might employ.

Everything that would ever cause a separation between me and my Heavenly Father was being put to death on that cross. Some Christians are still attempting to put to death things today. The real root of these things involve religious activity doing things today, that already were completed and done by Christ on the cross.

Now in the first quote above you state that we must be regularly in tune with the Father. Pray tell, how is this accomplished?

peace,

Dave

[Michae]

Your confusion comes from not seperating soul and spirit, thanks.

[Matthitjah]

Your confusion comes from not seperating soul and spirit, thanks.

Explain please.

[Michae]

Your confusion comes from not seperating soul and spirit, thanks.

Explain please.

Apoligize for the last quibe answer. Seems most belivers today can not divide soul and spirit so

when making statements about our completion in spirit or being completed is soul much confusion

comes out of it. Its a real concern among bible teachers today. A bible student really needs to give

some time to study and get the understanding of properly dividing soul and spirit. Quick case in point there is a thread we gave both been in here called osas, that thread would not exsist if the scriptures were divided into soul and spirit.

Let me explain, dividing soul and spirit is not real big in religion if anything they would rather you not learn to handle the word like that, Hebrew 4:12.

Ok lets look quickly at this, it does take some time and Spirit teaching to be able to divide.

We are completed in spirit by Christ in us, "he thst is joined unto the Lord is one spirit". That is our completion and salvation in spirit, it is finished, done nothing more needs to be completed in spirit. Now when looking at expressing our new life in Christ that is soulish, the only way for a believer to live a christian life is through their soul-expresser or another wsy to say it is our creation, the way we are all unique in creation or expression.

Paul is very clear in delivering the message that Christ is the only life a believer has, yet that life

is the only life we have. Its not my life its the Christ-life that was birthed in me, the life of Christ, the seed of God which is Christ was placed in me as my only life the moment I believed.

Ok soulishly and spontaneously it is lived out of me, its no longer my love but His, its no longer my faith but His and so on and so on. That simple undetstanding had divided all of christianity and we will not budge on out thinking, we had rather fight than get revelation on what a christian is. Not easy to understand because the natural man Paul said can not get the things of God they have to be revealed, that is soulish or mind renewal to the deep things of God which is Christ in you the hopw of glory.

[Matthitjah]

Your confusion comes from not seperating soul and spirit, thanks.

Explain please.

Apoligize for the last quibe answer. Seems most belivers today can not divide soul and spirit so

when making statements about our completion in spirit or being completed is soul much confusion

comes out of it. Its a real concern among bible teachers today. A bible student really needs to give

some time to study and get the understanding of properly dividing soul and spirit. Quick case in point there is a thread we gave both been in here called osas, that thread would not exsist if the scriptures were divided into soul and spirit.

Let me explain, dividing soul and spirit is not real big in religion if anything they would rather you not learn to handle the word like that, Hebrew 4:12.

Ok lets look quickly at this, it does take some time and Spirit teaching to be able to divide.

We are completed in spirit by Christ in us, "he thst is joined unto the Lord is one spirit". That is our completion and salvation in spirit, it is finished, done nothing more needs to be completed in spirit. Now when looking at expressing our new life in Christ that is soulish, the only way for a believer to live a christian life is through their soul-expresser or another wsy to say it is our creation, the way we are all unique in creation or expression.

Paul is very clear in delivering the message that Christ is the only life a believer has, yet that life

is the only life we have. Its not my life its the Christ-life that was birthed in me, the life of Christ, the seed of God which is Christ was placed in me as my only life the moment I believed.

Ok soulishly and spontaneously it is lived out of me, its no longer my love but His, its no longer my faith but His and so on and so on. That simple undetstanding had divided all of christianity and we will not budge on out thinking, we had rather fight than get revelation on what a christian is. Not easy to understand because the natural man Paul said can not get the things of God they have to be revealed, that is soulish or mind renewal to the deep things of God which is Christ in you the hopw of glory.

Okay, that's not a hard thing to grasp. It's a basic Christian principle.

I would like to add though that God did not come to simply redeem our Spirit. He came to redeem our whole man. That's the promise. We will be wholly redeemed. That is the ongoing process of sanctification even until Shiloh come.

Paul is pretty clear that the new man will put on incorruption. Then we will know even as we are known. God is redeeming our very life with His.