oldzimm Posted April 16, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Zimmerman followed Trayvon. If Trayvon was kind of freaked out that someone was stalking him, and reacted in self defense, at that point there would be a fight. If Zimmerman in the course of that fight then drew his gun and shot Trayvon, Zimmerman is screwed. The narrative that is coming out now says that Zimmerman had stoppd following Trayon when Trayvon confronted him. If so, Trayvon initiated the fight and it was Zimmerman on the ground calling for help and drew his gun in self-defense. That is not murder. Possibly manslaughter. Zimmerman was almost certainly not in immediate life threatening danger even if he was on the bottom in that scuffle. For a conflict that took a good 30 seconds, he got first aid treatment (from the Police, not even the Paramedics) and walked into the station without so much as a bandage on. Actually, he rejected the first aid offered by the paramedics. It wasn't the case that his injuries were so minor that he didn't need first aid from the paramedics. He refused it when offered by them. Photos have emerged of the injuries he received including lacerations and bleeding from the back of the head. Secondly, in the heat of a fight, you may or may not know just how much danger you are in. In the heat of a scuffle you can't know just what the other person is thinking or if they may inadvertantly do something to you that is life-threatening. You sort of have to expect the worst. If a bar fight that ends in a death is second degree murder, this isn't much of a stretch for that. This can't be compared to a bar fight. Shiloh you covered it very well, the problem is self proclaimed lawyers only want to see what they want to see and that is how we get an lynch mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 16, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2012 Back to the OP, it might be that Farrakhan was responding to the storied that the news people had edited... I know the first thing I head on the news made Zimmerman out to be something terrible..... then again Farrakhin would probably think that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted April 24, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 24, 2012 Chirp, chirp chirp, chirp! (crickets) I was wondering where my hypo, ah ahem oops, I meant Leftist friends are today. There's folks on Twitter and in the public calling for Zimmermans death, calling for the defense attorneys death, calling for the Judges death because Zimmerman was released on bail. Where's the hue and cry, the ballyhoo, where are the calls of outrage? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldzimm Posted April 24, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Chirp, chirp chirp, chirp! (crickets) I was wondering where my hypo, ah ahem oops, I meant Leftist friends are today. There's folks on Twitter and in the public calling for Zimmermans death, calling for the defense attorneys death, calling for the Judges death because Zimmerman was released on bail. Where's the hue and cry, the ballyhoo, where are the calls of outrage? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp! Yes, surely one of the biggest protagonists for lynching Zimmerman in this thread will be along any moment to condemn the actions of these people calling for Zimmerman's death. You guys are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 24, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Let's call it what it is - People are more angry at what racial profiling than they are first degree murder. As long as people believe Zimmerman and the sheriff acted out of racism, they will hate him to their own graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted April 25, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2012 This is the most fair and unbiased news story that I've seen on this subject; http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted April 26, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 26, 2012 Chirp, chirp chirp, chirp! (crickets) I was wondering where my hypo, ah ahem oops, I meant Leftist friends are today. There's folks on Twitter and in the public calling for Zimmermans death, calling for the defense attorneys death, calling for the Judges death because Zimmerman was released on bail. Where's the hue and cry, the ballyhoo, where are the calls of outrage? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp! I do not go look on twitter for hateful things nor do I care to try search out stories about such garbage behaviour. That stuff is obviously wrong. I don't go search out negative things to then go be outraged about all the negative stories I see because that generally spreads negativity. Do you think us 'leftists' think that those death threats are ok or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Chirp, chirp chirp, chirp! (crickets) I was wondering where my hypo, ah ahem oops, I meant Leftist friends are today. There's folks on Twitter and in the public calling for Zimmermans death, calling for the defense attorneys death, calling for the Judges death because Zimmerman was released on bail. Where's the hue and cry, the ballyhoo, where are the calls of outrage? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp! I do not go look on twitter for hateful things nor do I care to try search out stories about such garbage behaviour. That stuff is obviously wrong. I don't go search out negative things to then go be outraged about all the negative stories I see because that generally spreads negativity. Do you think us 'leftists' think that those death threats are ok or something? You still don't get it. It is the fact that the left are a bunch of hypocrites. You waste no time squawking and screeching about people like Rush, but are consistently silent when it comes to these types of issues. Had someone percievied as a conservative made these kinds of threats, the left would be foaming at the mouth over it. The problem is that the left had already fomented the narrative that Zimmerman was a racist who hunted down Martin and murdered him. They perpetuated that narrative and leftist loons like Jackson and Sharpton incited hate and anger. And by the way, they are not stories one has to go and search out. They veritible front page news. They are stories that leftists simply ignore because either they don't want to face up to the facts, or they basically agree Now, because of the loony left, people are calling for the death of Zimmerman. He has been tried and convincted in the court of public opinion and it will next to impossible for him to get a fair trial in this country. We have the black panthers putting a price on his head and the left says nothing. The leftist media has been caught doctoring recordings to make Zimmerman look guilty, and the left pretty much says nothing. The presumption of innocence has been trampled, and the left is to blame. The left is to blame if there are riots and more bloodshed. They opened that can of worms and should be willing to take responsibility for the ensuing violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 26, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted April 26, 2012 This is the most fair and unbiased news story that I've seen on this subject; http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425 Wow, that explains a lot, for sure....why he carried a gun, why he was suspicious, why he didn't follow police directives to hang back and wait. Right or wrong, it isn't what has been portrayed of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted May 2, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted May 2, 2012 Where's the outrage? http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2012/05/beating-church-and-brambleton Where are my indignant Leftist friends? Where is the litany of outrage and the calls for arrest if not outright hanging and murder? Ah' Hypocrisy there is none sweeter save the Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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