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Of Coarse the BIBLE is the TRUTH.........

If JESUS said it ,then I believe it.

He is the WAY .....the TRUTH and the LIFE......

JESUS said this ,about the GOSPEL......

MARK 16:15

and HE said to them,"Go into all the world and preach

the gospel to every creature.

MARK 16:16

"HE who believes and is baptized will be saved;

but he who does not believe will be condemned.

LOVE and PEACE to everyone, :hug:

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Is the Bible the Truth? I prefer to think that the Bible contains all Truth. Jesus is the Truth. But I think that begs the question. Yes, the Bible is the Truth. Can I prove it? I don't know. But God proves it to me every day through the Holy Spirit.

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As much as the word of god may be the truth, you can never be too sure with the bible.

Think about it.

I like to think of it as the word and the bible being like water and coffee...first...you have water. Its pure, clean, perfect, infaluable. That is the word of god, as god intended it to be. Then...it goes through our hands (mans). That would be the water being made into coffee. It is no longer perfect, as it went through an imperfect being like water goes though the coffee. It picks up the ideas and thoughts of the author. No matter how much god tries, he could (or is not supposed to) MAKE us write the bible perfectly, as that would go against free will. Then...lets leave that coffee out for 9 hours. Thats the bible getting translated into many languages...so instead of drinking pure water, we are drinking this bitter crap. But bitter crap is better than nothing right?

At least thats my opinion on it. IMO, one must make the best of what he/she has, and try to discern the true meaning of the bible.

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Thats the bible getting translated into many languages...so instead of drinking pure water, we are drinking this bitter crap. But bitter crap is better than nothing right?

Have you ever heard of the "Dead Sea Scrolls" before?

They are in the original Hebrew and pre-date Christ's birth, death, burrial, and resurrection. The Bible hasn't been translated and re-translated over and over, we have copies of the original manuscripts in the original language.

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Actualy, we do not. We have very old coppies, but as of yet, not original coppies of either testament have been found.

The dead sea scrolls is something I have not as of yet had the ability to read. They are so expencive, and due to lack of work, I am unable to afford a copy, as is with the gnostic gospels of which I am also itching to read.

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Actualy, we do not. We have very old coppies, but as of yet, not original coppies of either testament have been found.

I didn't say we had the originals, I said we had "copies of the original manuscripts in the original language."

To my knowlege that is true.

The dead sea scrolls is something I have not as of yet had the ability to read. They are so expencive, and due to lack of work, I am unable to afford a copy, as is with the gnostic gospels of which I am also itching to read.

WOW! Can you read Hebrew and Greek?

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I didn't say we had the originals, I said we had "copies of the original manuscripts in the original language."

To my knowlege that is true.

I cry your pardon. I missunderstood you.

Even if we did not translate it over and over, the basic Idea is the same. As you cross to another language, you may lose meaning.

WOW! Can you read Hebrew and Greek?

You missunderstand (Or I missunderstand your sarcasm), I ment english coppies. Both hebrew and greek are languages I have yet to look into.

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I didn't say we had the originals, I said we had "copies of the original manuscripts in the original language."

To my knowlege that is true.

I cry your pardon. I missunderstood you.

Not a problem. :huh:

Even if we did not translate it over and over, the basic Idea is the same. As you cross to another language, you may lose meaning.

This is very, very true. I can't prove this by a link, but I have heard that in the New Testament alone, there are over 11,000 Greek words, yet in our English translations there is about 5,000.

I may be off in my numbers, but you get the point, right?

WOW! Can you read Hebrew and Greek?

You missunderstand (Or I missunderstand your sarcasm), I ment english coppies. Both hebrew and greek are languages I have yet to look into.

Yea, I misunderstood. You can go to Borders or Barnes & Noble and look in the religion section and find some of this information.

Or you can look online:

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

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As much as the word of god may be the truth, you can never be too sure with the bible.

Think about it.

I like to think of it as the word and the bible being like water and coffee...first...you have water. Its pure, clean, perfect, infaluable. That is the word of god, as god intended it to be. Then...it goes through our hands (mans). That would be the water being made into coffee. It is no longer perfect, as it went through an imperfect being like water goes though the coffee. It picks up the ideas and thoughts of the author. No matter how much god tries, he could (or is not supposed to) MAKE us write the bible perfectly, as that would go against free will. Then...lets leave that coffee out for 9 hours. Thats the bible getting translated into many languages...so instead of drinking pure water, we are drinking this bitter crap. But bitter crap is better than nothing right?

At least thats my opinion on it. IMO, one must make the best of what he/she has, and try to discern the true meaning of the bible.

I'm somewhat with you. However, let me word it a bit better for you.

The bible we have, regardless of language, is infallible. The language (such as English), however, tend to be a bit more confusing than the original language and manuscripts. I will always, ALWAYS, support a Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic interpretation over an English, Russian, ect. one. However, this doesn't mean the others are fallible, it simply means the language has a hard time conveying the perfect thought of the material.

Also, we know the Bible hasn't changed in 2,000 years. It would have only had about a 40 year time frame for it to change....

Also, I do read and speak Greek (hoping to learn Hebrew here pretty soon) and I'll tell you that part of one of my classes was to interpret 1 John (in one week mind you...that sucked) based off the Greek manuscripts. After the translation, I was able to see that my translation was extremely similar to the KJV, NASB, ect...with minimal differences.

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