one nation under God?

[Guest act123]

I want to try and get some feedback on the direction of our nation. I am 21 and this is something that really concerns me. Tryin to get some feedback.

To read the article, Click Here

[Az_]

Better. But what article are you refering too. We need a link now.

[ted]

Welcome to Worthy, Act123. I Pray you will be Blessed.

Do you have a link to the article you are talking about?

t.

[Az_]

The link appears to be at the www.colia.org site. But the first two tries he missed it. Its in the third thread but listed under the subheading which of course means its not a link and likely to be missed.

[Guest act123]

the article is under /www.colia.org/onenationonegod.html but i dont know how to link it to the post. any ideas?

[Guest act123]

thanks guys.

[BobTriez]

the article is under /www.colia.org/onenationonegod.html but i dont know how to link it to the post. any ideas?

Greetings,

Welcome to Worthy Boards. I removed your other polls and edited your original post to include a link to the article.

God bless,

Bob

[serotta]

for us lazy people:

http://www.colia.org/onenationonegod.html

[Az_]

Well the article is interesting but your poll does not really have an answer that someone other than a Christian can really reply to. And that kind of gets to the problem of the One Nation Under God bit. Its not really true.

As things stand right now I am a citizen of the United States of America. This is a thing I cherish. I am also an atheist. Which means I recognise no gods. I can atest to the fact that there are a few more atheists running around out there (conservative estimate 10% of the US population). Thus saying we are One Nation Under God just based on the presense of atheists makes the statement demonstrably untrue.

Thus we are either One Nation not under any particular god. Or we are a divided nation with some individuals under God. Either case "One Nation Under God" is false. And I do believe there is some bit about bearing false witness if some religions.

This goes to the question of freedom. Is this a nation predicated on the principles of freedom? Or is it a theocratic state predicated on the teachings of one particular religion. Now the guiding principles behind individuals live's can be religious in nature and still not make a nation a religious nation. This is the wonderous part about freedom. We all struggle together in this great nation to form a more perfect union. To establish justice and tranquility... let me allow the founding fathers to express this as they did so much better than I.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Proclaiming this nation to be Under God in an oathe doesn't make it so. Its really up to God whether this is a nation under him. The truth is there are 5 states worth of atheists running around in this nation. There are other religions represented too. There are believers of the most wonderous things and doubters of anything they cannot touch. We are all Americans. It is a pity some have decided to pick a fight and try to exclude others. That seems to me to be the most unAmerican thing one can do.

[Guest act123]

If we are not a nation under God, then where do we get our morals from. What are our morals based on.

Its really up to God whether this is a nation under him.

If you are an atheist and do not recognise a God of any kind, then why would you say this.