Good message, False prophets

[noobie]

Hello again friends I have a question for you all about false prophets. There have been times when a preacher comes on T.V.

or the internet and there message is go good it sucks me in. I feel like there being moved by the Holy Spirit and they

motivated me for weeks. Then my discerning spirit kicks in and they do something that is very questionable. Not mentioning

any names but by question is, how does this effect me? Can I get a good message from a false prophet?

in Luke 9:49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he

followeth not with us.

then in Luke 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us.

How do we really know who is for us? I know we are to test the spirits but when it comes back that they are a fraud how

does everything I just learned from them now hold up?

Then I start to think if one of these false prophets turn even 1 person to Jesus and they grow in faith they themselves

will see they are false prophets, isn't that a good thing? Truth is some of these guys turn thousands of people to Jesus.

Anyway what I am asking is, if the message is pure but the person is false, is it bad to continue to listen to them?

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Sometimes people say the right things but have bad intentions or do so for the wrong reasons.

Sometimes people say incorrect things but do so with good intentions.

Having said that I think you CAN get a good message from someone who is a "false prophet" or has ulterior motives, you just need to be very cautious & discerning regarding what you believe and what you don't. For example (and this happens a lot) I'll read or watch a video/article where someone makes some very interesting points, but then draws conclusions that I don't think are logically founded.

When it comes to people in general you'll run into a mix of information as well as misinformation, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not

[noobie]

Sometimes people say the right things but have bad intentions or do so for the wrong reasons.

Sometimes people say incorrect things but do so with good intentions.

Having said that I think you CAN get a good message from someone who is a "false prophet" or has ulterior motives, you just need to be very cautious & discerning regarding what you believe and what you don't. For example (and this happens a lot) I'll read or watch a video/article where someone makes some very interesting points, but then draws conclusions that I don't think are logically founded.

When it comes to people in general you'll run into a mix of information as well as misinformation, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not

I guess if I'm pointing at a blue house calling it blue but stealing your wallet in the process doesn't change the fact that the house is still blue lol Thanks

[nebula]

Hello again friends I have a question for you all about false prophets. There have been times when a preacher comes on T.V.

or the internet and there message is go good it sucks me in. I feel like there being moved by the Holy Spirit and they

motivated me for weeks. Then my discerning spirit kicks in and they do something that is very questionable. Not mentioning

any names but by question is, how does this effect me? Can I get a good message from a false prophet?

Keep your eyes on Jesus, not on man.

None of us are perfect. David's sinful deeds didn't invalidate every Psalm he ever wrote or continued to write.

Make sense?

[noobie]

Hello again friends I have a question for you all about false prophets. There have been times when a preacher comes on T.V.

or the internet and there message is go good it sucks me in. I feel like there being moved by the Holy Spirit and they

motivated me for weeks. Then my discerning spirit kicks in and they do something that is very questionable. Not mentioning

any names but by question is, how does this effect me? Can I get a good message from a false prophet?

Keep your eyes on Jesus, not on man.

None of us are perfect. David's sinful deeds didn't invalidate every Psalm he ever wrote or continued to write.

Make sense?

Thanks nebula, yes it does make a lot of sense.

[Guest man]

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Anyway what I am asking is, if the message is pure but the person is false, is it bad to continue to listen to them?

If you know the person is a false prophet, why would you want to continue to feed from their words?

Apple seeds contain a small amount of cyanide. Eating a tiny portion is pretty much harmless, but if you continue to ingest those seeds they will eventually kill you.

[rich08]

Hello again friends I have a question for you all about false prophets. There have been times when a preacher comes on T.V.

or the internet and there message is go good it sucks me in. I feel like there being moved by the Holy Spirit and they

motivated me for weeks. Then my discerning spirit kicks in and they do something that is very questionable. Not mentioning

any names but by question is, how does this effect me? Can I get a good message from a false prophet?

in Luke 9:49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he

followeth not with us.

then in Luke 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us.

How do we really know who is for us? I know we are to test the spirits but when it comes back that they are a fraud how

does everything I just learned from them now hold up?

Then I start to think if one of these false prophets turn even 1 person to Jesus and they grow in faith they themselves

will see they are false prophets, isn't that a good thing? Truth is some of these guys turn thousands of people to Jesus.

Anyway what I am asking is, if the message is pure but the person is false, is it bad to continue to listen to them?

This is quite timely for me in a way - it follows on from a conversation my wife and I were having a couple of days ago.

I became a Christian at university. I went to many evangelistic events at the University and also started going to a large Baptist church with an internationally renowned preacher as its minister who was widely respect in the Evangelical world as one of the best preacher of his generation and often spoke at Christian Union meetings. He was very influential in my early Christian life and he was the minister who baptised me.

About six years after I left University he suddenly resigned from his ministry (and the different Evangelical bodies he was associated with): it was announced he had left his wife and had moved in with another man. It was in the national news in this country. He is now a key proponent of the gay evangelical christian movement (if that is a contradiction in terms).

I was devastated. And in a way it still has a big impact on me. I still have some of his books; I can remember reading them, bible open in the other hand, making notes, learning and praying as a young Christian. But what now? Is he a false prophet or teacher? Clearly I would not agree with his current stance on homosexuality. What about the rest of his teachings? Ironically I can even remember him preaching against homosexuality in one of his sermons - I can even remember where I was in the church - front row of the balcony in the middle block of seats - slightly to the right of this block (it's funny what you remember).

It was devastating for the evangelical movement in this country, but it hit me very hard personally too.

[larryt]

Hello again friends I have a question for you all about false prophets. There have been times when a preacher comes on T.V.

or the internet and there message is go good it sucks me in. I feel like there being moved by the Holy Spirit and they

motivated me for weeks. Then my discerning spirit kicks in and they do something that is very questionable. Not mentioning

any names but by question is, how does this effect me? Can I get a good message from a false prophet?

in Luke 9:49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he

followeth not with us.

then in Luke 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us.

How do we really know who is for us? I know we are to test the spirits but when it comes back that they are a fraud how

does everything I just learned from them now hold up?

Then I start to think if one of these false prophets turn even 1 person to Jesus and they grow in faith they themselves

will see they are false prophets, isn't that a good thing? Truth is some of these guys turn thousands of people to Jesus.

Anyway what I am asking is, if the message is pure but the person is false, is it bad to continue to listen to them?

Keep in mind that Satan apears as an angel of light. Most false teachers will use all the right words and logic to make their message sound like the real thing. The main thing is: Are they lifting us Jesus Christ and Him alone. If they are constantly talking about doctrine, the walk, holiness, etc; but not relating how this is pointing to Jesus then they are off no matter how good the message is.

LT

[AnotherSinner]

Hello again friends I have a question for you all about false prophets. There have been times when a preacher comes on T.V.

or the internet and there message is go good it sucks me in. I feel like there being moved by the Holy Spirit and they

motivated me for weeks. Then my discerning spirit kicks in and they do something that is very questionable. Not mentioning

any names but by question is, how does this effect me? Can I get a good message from a false prophet?

in Luke 9:49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he

followeth not with us.

then in Luke 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us.

How do we really know who is for us? I know we are to test the spirits but when it comes back that they are a fraud how

does everything I just learned from them now hold up?

Then I start to think if one of these false prophets turn even 1 person to Jesus and they grow in faith they themselves

will see they are false prophets, isn't that a good thing? Truth is some of these guys turn thousands of people to Jesus.

Anyway what I am asking is, if the message is pure but the person is false, is it bad to continue to listen to them?

The truth should always be sought in God's written word, which was fulfilled as well as lived and breathed by Christ Jesus.

A believer will be known by his or her fruits.

Is it bad to listen to a false prophet? Well, it can be dangerous ground. For after all, why is a false prophet a false prophet?

Because of his or her fruit. The word of God is always honest and sincere, a false prophet is not.

Just Another Sinner Seeking The Way

Dani

[nebula]

Anyway what I am asking is, if the message is pure but the person is false, is it bad to continue to listen to them?

I've been doing some more thinking on this . . .

I have to wonder what the "false" is you refer to. Some problems people have are a result of sin nature that need to be overcome. Yet some problems are where the heart is out of alignment with God.

If the person's heart is out of alignment with God, it can create a false twist to any Scriptural truth they give.

With any person, we have to evaluate everything against the Scripture - as the Bereans did with Paul. And sometimes a person can be spot on in one area but off-kilter with another. Yet what matters the most is where their heart is with the Lord. Consider the churches in Revelation. Most of them had points the Lord was proud of them for yet points the Lord was disappointed in them for. The Ephesians had theological zealousness but lost their first love in Him. Another church stood strong against persecution "where Satan's throne is" yet were compromisers with sin.

So for whatever it is you are disturbed by, you need to evaluate if it is an issue that corrupts the theology or not.