nebula Posted June 20, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Popular Atheist Blogger Announces Conversion to Catholicism By Jeff Schapiro , Christian Post Reporter June 19, 2012|1:33 pm A well-known atheist blogger made a shocking announcement on Monday: after careful consideration, she has concluded that God exists and she has converted to Catholicism. <snip> "I believed that the Moral Law wasn't just a Platonic truth, abstract and distant," she wrote. "It turns out I actually believed it was some kind of Person, as well as Truth. And there was one religion that seemed like the most promising way to reach back to that living Truth. I asked my friend what he suggest we do now, and we prayed the night office of the Liturgy of the Hours together (I've kept up with that since)." Read the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted June 20, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,234 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,485 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Well, she was not a real atheist to start with If you think she was, would you accept the possibility that I was a real Christian (saved) before losing my faith? If not, what is the logical reason of this asymmetry? Ciao - viole Well the understanding is one of fact based on the truthfulness of God... because those born again are in fact possessions of God and sealed by His eternal Presence within the New Being 'As God has Promised' Eph 1:13-14 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. NKJV Jn 14:16-18 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever — 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. NKJV the combining truth set forth above and below is seen in the confidence of John's last statement here! To be any other way would effectively make God a liar! That 'WILL' never be! 2 Jn 1-2 1 The Elder, To the elect lady and her children, whom I love in truth, and not only I, but also all those who have known the truth, 2 because of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever: NKJV 1 Jn 2:19 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us. NKJV The logic 'IS' God 'IS' and all else is awaiting judgment by not being of God... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted June 20, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2012 Popular Atheist Blogger Announces Conversion to Catholicism By Jeff Schapiro , Christian Post Reporter June 19, 2012|1:33 pm A well-known atheist blogger made a shocking announcement on Monday: after careful consideration, she has concluded that God exists and she has converted to Catholicism. <snip> "I believed that the Moral Law wasn't just a Platonic truth, abstract and distant," she wrote. "It turns out I actually believed it was some kind of Person, as well as Truth. And there was one religion that seemed like the most promising way to reach back to that living Truth. I asked my friend what he suggest we do now, and we prayed the night office of the Liturgy of the Hours together (I've kept up with that since)." Read the rest Well, she was not a real atheist to start with If you think she was, would you accept the possibility that I was a real Christian (saved) before losing my faith? If not, what is the logical reason of this asymmetry? Ciao - viole I don't know about anyone else but I would accept that you were a real Christian once. It has happened to a lot of people....even, reportedly, Mother Theresa. It still breaks my heart to think of this happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted July 3, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Well, she was not a real atheist to start with If you think she was, would you accept the possibility that I was a real Christian (saved) before losing my faith? If not, what is the logical reason of this asymmetry? Ciao - viole Hi Viole, I have frequently been told I was not a real Christian. It has been argued that had I truly known Christ I could not have rejected belief in him. I think that loss of Belief and also finding Belief can flow in both directions. Absolutely true. Faith can be gained and lost simply based upon obedience to that which is revealed. Nobody is exempt. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2012 Converts to Catholicism? "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (Rev. 3:15-16). "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." (Rev. 18:4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted July 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted July 12, 2012 "Not a real atheist to start with" Lol, nice viole! And she "converted to catholic"? First an atheist, then a catholic......sigh. She sure is taking the long way round to finding Jesus and being saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgedrw81 Posted July 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,823 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/10/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2012 Young children are God's children. As we grow up we believe in whatever faith our parents believed in at the time. Once grown up each one of takes a path or many different paths. The only correct path is through Jesus and the duty of His apostles is to show the way. If the atheist woman now believes in God I rejoice and pray or her. Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted July 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2012 A self-concocted atheist foolishly says there is no God even tho his position lacks concrete evidence and requires unlimited faith ala that of a Christian. Roman Catholicism, to which our friend has converted, demands the "re-sacrificing" of Jesus Christ millions of times worldwide on the altars of Roman "Sacrifices of the mass" in direct opposition to Hebrews 10:10-12! If I agreed with either position, we'd both be wrong. Both atheism & Romanism simply shift chairs on the RMS Titanic! Halp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Christians usually (not always) tell me that because I lost my faith I was not a real Christian to start with. If I recall correctly, those on the board who questioned the validity of your faith based the reasoning on your claims of what you believed made you a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted July 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2012 The self-concocted atheists I debate on television or radio assure me that "God doesn't exist at all." They're ornery atheists rather than ordinary ones. But perhaps God may exist on Barnard's Star or on Wolf 359 or on Ross 248 or on Luyten 1159-16, etc? How would they know? Have they been there to check it out? Maybe they should kindly revise their hasty conclusion from "does not exist" to "may not exist"? Anyways, bottom- line, and what is far more important with both time & especially eternity in view plus what truly "bells the cat" is: God Doesn't Believe in Atheism! Oh, oh, Numero Uno Spoilsport, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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