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We know that God commanded all to repent.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

This verse says that God gives repentance.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

I know how I would explain it, but how would you?


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We know that God commanded all to repent.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

This verse says that God gives repentance.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

I know how I would explain it, but how would you?

If I were just dealing with the two verses you pointed out here, I would deal with it in this manner:

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Commanded to repent from what? That God can be likened to an idol made with hands when we are actually created in the image of God and therefore ought to be conformed to his actual image or person rather than worship some dumb idol.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Repentance from what? According to the context repentance from following the false doctrines of Satan and acknowledging the truth of God. It is accomplished through patient instruction of those who are deceived which is extremely difficult at best and not for the faint of heart. I wonder many times whether I can continue to repeat the instruction yet again in hope that maybe this time God will grant them repentance but am well aware of Hebrews 6 that explains that there are those who he absolutely will not.

Gary


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God can and wills to give Godly sorrow, ergo repentance, sorrow for our condition that God made saved us. I don't know.


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We know that God commanded all to repent.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

This verse says that God gives repentance.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

I know how I would explain it, but how would you?

If I were just dealing with the two verses you pointed out here, I would deal with it in this manner:

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Commanded to repent from what? That God can be likened to an idol made with hands when we are actually created in the image of God and therefore ought to be conformed to his actual image or person rather than worship some dumb idol.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Repentance from what? According to the context repentance from following the false doctrines of Satan and acknowledging the truth of God. It is accomplished through patient instruction of those who are deceived which is extremely difficult at best and not for the faint of heart. I wonder many times whether I can continue to repeat the instruction yet again in hope that maybe this time God will grant them repentance but am well aware of Hebrews 6 that explains that there are those who he absolutely will not.

Gary

let me try again'

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?


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let me try again'

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

I can't figure out what you are getting at, perhaps if you would give your understanding first.
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This verse says that God gives repentance.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

I know how I would explain it, but how would you?

I plant, you water, but God gives the increase.

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let me try again'

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

I can't figure out what you are getting at, perhaps if you would give your understanding first.

One can't become a true follower of Christ unless God permits it.

True knowledge, wisdom and understanding.........they all come from God.


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let me try again'

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

I can't figure out what you are getting at, perhaps if you would give your understanding first.

hi monarchy,

i didn't want to tint the replies but the way i would explain it is that man is commanded to repent but that does not seem very likely that he will unless God intervenes.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

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This verse says that God gives repentance.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

I know how I would explain it, but how would you?

I plant, you water, but God gives the increase.

Good call.

Asper, out of curiosity are you hinting at total depravity?

Gary


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let me try again'

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

I can't figure out what you are getting at, perhaps if you would give your understanding first.

One can't become a true follower of Christ unless God permits it.

True knowledge, wisdom and understanding.........they all come from God.

Big Amen! There are millions who don't know that. Good job!
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