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John 14 v 8-9:

Philip said to Him (Jesus), "Lord, show us the Father (God), and it is sufficient for us." Jesus said to him, " have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, "Show us the Father?"

What say you to this Fallen?

John 1:18

No man has seen God at any time.

John 14 v 8-9:

Philip said to Him (Jesus), "Lord, show us the Father (God), and it is sufficient for us." Jesus said to him, " have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, "Show us the Father?"

What say you to this Fallen?

John 1:18

No man has seen God at any time.

No man has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. :mgcheerful: the whole verse of John 1 v 18
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Jesus has declared God Fallen, come on now, you go to Uni....let's not play games : )..you must read it all and put it into context...

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It would be nullified if it was at the end of the sentence wouldn't it?

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Jesus has declared God - nature declares God ...think about it.

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The heavens (sky) declare the handiwork of God...if I look up, am I not seeing with my eyes?

Jesus was God in flesh...if you wanted to know what God looked like as a man..it was Jesus.

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Just go back and read what I have already put up there, and think about it....seriously : )

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It's not a contradiciton if you haven't seen God as He is, not in the flesh. It's not a contradiction no.

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Did you not read what Jesus told Philip?

I know you are being silly now Fallen, the male Aussie silliness is setting in....: )


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You do not HEAR us because you do not HEAR Him.

"But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted"

-Ezekiel 3:7

Here is the thing, I have enough personal proof that God has revealed Himself to me, and I have faith that it is Him and not some freakish wierd thing of nature. When my prayers are answered almost instantaeousely at times, I have FAITH that is it Him and not just oddities of ...well, nature. Once or twice= coincidence, countless times= Someone is in control! AKA God.

If you say "okay I will believe God exists if He lifts up this table right here infront of me" and He DOES, then you will try and find a natural explanation for it. If your heart is hardened to the Truth you will not have faith in God even if He lifts the table for you. Don't you get it??? We are chosen by God to believe or to NOT believe! If you are meant to not believe you WILL not and cannot believe, and everything we say to you is foolishness!!!!! My goodness! PRAISE THE LORD HE HAS SAVED US!!!

You cannot explain why on numerous accounts cancer patients have had their cancers go away over night or within HOURS after prayer! Doctors can't explain it either, but a few are smart enough to attribute it to God. That is exactly where the Glory goes!!

I will pray for you my friend.

God bless!

Natalie


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your responses are actually quite textbook, and are precisely how the Bible says they would be. You are in bondage and you don't even know it. Freethinker? You mean slave to satan? You gobble up any lie the enemy tells you.

"and you shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free" I have never been more free and at peace in my entire life.

I am sure other false religions out there have what they consider proofs, but those are lies from the devil, the devil can work wonders to lead people astray from the Truth. Look at the mormons. They believe a burning in the bussom is their proof that their religion is real, the devil could give you that feeling as well.

My opinion is that you weren't really saved to begin with, no one can taste the pure love and Truth of God and turn away from it. God was truley not inside you. You did not have the Holy Spirit inside you, therefor you cannot relate to what we are saying...you can not hear us. When you have the Spirit you thirst for God and the only thing that quenches that thirst is being in fellowship with Him and reading His Word the Bible.

And yes, sometimes, on rare occasions God's voice IS audible! But most of the time He will speak to you through the Holy Spirit leading you, or through miraculous things happening in your life. You can't explain to someone what the Holy Spirit is like if they don't have it in them. It's like trying to explain to the childless what a mother's love for their child feels like. You can't describe it, words don't do it justice.

And I would like to know what kind of medicine would leave no trace of cancer overnight? The lady went in the next morning and the doctor found NO trace at all! What is more likely? Freak of nature, or the God of Abraham is real and the Bible is real? To me that is a no brainer, ecspecially when you compound that with other miracles that have been documented, and personal experience, and the historical facts of Jesus, and how Josephus back in AD 75 said that the new religion Christianity believed this man Jesus did miraculous healings and signs and was crucified and raised 3 days later. You can't ignore that fact! Historians back then knew about those claims that Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days! This isn't some crazy cult with no foundation for belief. This is real and it really happened! As crazy as it sounds it is true!!! People don't want to hear the Truth because they don't want to change, they love their sin. And today in America the word sin is taboo, there is no such thing, it's basically do what you want. Your right is your right and my right is my right, it is all relative, there is no absolute truth. Lets just take God out of the schools and out of the families....geez kind of funny how when that started happening things turned to cr@p. The school systems are dumbing us down, and our teenagers are without morals (most of them). Why should they have morals? It's all relative. Sure, treat your friends nice, anyone can do that. But give $500 to a homeless man when no one is watching? Who does that? And who uses their food stamps to buy $200 worth of groceries to their enemy that hates them??

Didn't mean to go on a tangent, my point is this...it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to put 2 and 2 together and realize yes the Bible is real and yes we need God because - as we are seeing these days- without Him our country and our way of life is turning to manuer. We need to humble ourselves in prayer and fasting and repentence and seek out that relationship with Him again.

praying for you

Shalom

Natalie

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