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http://www.wnd.com/2...ch-on-politics/

“Any activity designed to influence the outcome of a partisan election can be construed as intervention,” the Americans United letter declares. “If the IRS determines that your house of worship has engaged in unlawful intervention, it can revoke the institution’s tax-exempt status or levy significant fines on the house of worship


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What is next concerning the Church ?


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Even if these pastors can find a loophole that allows them to preach politics from the pupit while keeping their tax-exempt status....why would they? Aren't they supposed to be preaching His word and sheperding His flocks? Reaching out to the lost? Tending to the sick and hungry? Sorry, I don't get why they need to be all up in this political thing. :confused:


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if they do ...I sure hope they are preaching and speaking on Obamas' abortion rights.


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The fact is, soon if no one intervenes and takes a stance in the church on something, we will end up like in some places in Canada. Not able to preach about homosexuality behind the pulpit, removing certain parts of scripture, and arresting pastors. I'm happy that few are finally doing something.


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The fact is, soon if no one intervenes and takes a stance in the church on something, we will end up like in some places in Canada. Not able to preach about homosexuality behind the pulpit, removing certain parts of scripture, and arresting pastors. I'm happy that few are finally doing something.

Yep...and...it would be sad if the law stops preachers from preaching about homosexuality...and they may get arrested for it.

They will probably want to remove the book of Romans...if it all comes to that .


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Why is it the government going after ministers and preachers who preach against homosexuality by claiming "separation of Church and State"? Yet, every U.S. government currency has the words "In God we Trust," and they don't seem to see that as "separation of Church and State?" Doesn't a preacher have a right to free expression or is that right only guaranteed to non-ministers or non-preachers?

I think you're not understanding the problem, Selene. They are telling preachers and ministers that, if they preach politics from the pulpit, they will lose the tax-exempt status which religious organizations in the U.S. are entitled to (this includes mosques, synagogues, temples, etc.) although they are absolutely entitled to endorse or speak for any party or candidate they please....on their own time. I personally think these preachers should be focusing on the Word rather than worldly matters during services. We are inundated with political messages 24/7; do we really need this in church? Btw, there IS no seperation of church and state in our Constitution.


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More and more it is becoming only allowable to have so-called "free" speech if what you preach either favors the Liberal government or does not challenge it or question it in any way. The only reason they would be scared of such a thing is because they feel threatened by it in some way.

It's a matter of tax or no tax.....these preachers can say anything and support anyone they choose when they are not behind the pulpit.


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I think you're not understanding the problem, Selene. They are telling preachers and ministers that, if they preach politics from the pulpit, they will lose the tax-exempt status which religious organizations in the U.S. are entitled to (this includes mosques, synagogues, temples, etc.) although they are absolutely entitled to endorse or speak for any party or candidate they please....on their own time. I personally think these preachers should be focusing on the Word rather than worldly matters during services. We are inundated with political messages 24/7; do we really need this in church? Btw, there IS no seperation of church and state in our Constitution.

The problem, as I see it, lies with the definition of the word "politics" and who gets to define it.

Today, it may be perfectly legal (tax-exempt wise) to preach a sermon on the subject of homosexual marriage or abortion - yet depending on who or what political party is in power, tomorrow it might not be.

As someone else pointed out, Canada has no First Amendment, and now it is not legal there to preach certain passages of the Bible. I don't think we want to see that happen here - but I believe we will.

Blessings!

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I think you're not understanding the problem, Selene. They are telling preachers and ministers that, if they preach politics from the pulpit, they will lose the tax-exempt status which religious organizations in the U.S. are entitled to (this includes mosques, synagogues, temples, etc.) although they are absolutely entitled to endorse or speak for any party or candidate they please....on their own time. I personally think these preachers should be focusing on the Word rather than worldly matters during services. We are inundated with political messages 24/7; do we really need this in church? Btw, there IS no seperation of church and state in our Constitution.

The problem, as I see it, lies with the definition of the word "politics" and who gets to define it.

Today, it may be perfectly legal (tax-exempt wise) to preach a sermon on the subject of homosexual marriage or abortion - yet depending on who or what political party is in power, tomorrow it might not be.

As someone else pointed out, Canada has no First Amendment, and now it is not legal there to preach certain passages of the Bible. I don't think we want to see that happen here - but I believe we will.

Blessings!

-Ed

Agreed, Ed, but that is not the issue in the right here and right now with these preachers.

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