Why we observed Sunday as the Sabbath?

[stevehut]

Why we set Sunday as the Sabbath

"We"? Certainly I don't recognize Sunday as the Sabbath. But it was the day that the early church met.

[stevehut]

The Seventh Day Baptists have some good information on fellowshipping on Saturdays

They sure do. And it looks like they want to be justified by observing the Law.

What an unfortunate burden to place on yourself.

[stevehut]

1-Ok, so we've all decided that "we" can worship, rest, observe, ANY DAY WE WANT.

2- what do you do about the last part of that commandment?

[Guest shiloh357]

The Seventh Day Baptists have some good information on fellowshipping on Saturdays

They sure do. And it looks like they want to be justified by observing the Law.

What an unfortunate burden to place on yourself.

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Actually Steve, they are not trying to be justified by observing the law.

You should have checked their site before judging them. Here was they say from the link provided above:

Salvation is by Grace Through Faith

Seventh Day Baptists believe that the Sabbath is important to God and to people. However, we also believe that we are not saved by observing the Sabbath. In fact, we are not saved by keeping any of the Ten Commandments. The Apostle Paul says, "no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law" (Romans 3:20).

Seventh Day Baptists believe that we are saved because "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son" (John 3:16). Jesus Christ came to earth to die and shed His blood so that people could be saved. Only those who surrender their lives to Jesus Christ will be saved.

They are not trying to justified by keeping the Sabbath anymore than you are trying to be justified by law by not murdering, not stealing or honoring your parents.

[Guest yod]

Do you think Christians are bound to keep the Mosaic Law today, including the Sabbath? Did Christ abolish the law of Moses when he died on the cross? We can't have it both ways.

this statement speaks of an incorrect understanding of the purpose of the Torah (which literally means "teaching" but for some reason is interpreted as "law" in the NT)

The answer? We'll let Yeshua tell you

Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Jesus said,

[Guest Hebrew Hammer]

People look at the Seveth Day Baptist Church, assume straight away that we must be like Adventists because the name sounds like that, and make a stack of judgements that had they read a little further on are irrelavant.

Why then do the Seventh Day Baptist Church meet on the Sabbath? Because the Early Church are recorded as doing that in the book of Acts.

Acts 13:42 "and when the Jews were gone out of the Synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath".

Acts 13:44 "And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city to hear the word of God"

The Sabbath was officially changed by Constantine to accomodate the Sun Worshippers into the new Christian Faith that the empire took on in the third century. They worshipped on Sunday and the Christians wanted to get away from appearing in any way Jewish, so the change was made.

What people forget though, is that the Gentile church is "grafted" onto the Messianic root of the church. the Gentile Church is not the root, but the graft. Our heritage is in Messianic Judaism.

The Seventh Day Baptists came about when the Mennonite Brethren and the Quakers began to seperate from the organised church. The Seventh Day Baptists were a congregation that rebelled in England against the teaching that Sunday was the Sabbath. Although that is not taught so much these days, it was taught in many churches that Sunday was the Sabbath and was to be observed as such.

The Seventh Day Baptists took the Scripture and discovered the Messianic Root of the church and went back to meeting on the Sabbath. The name was given to them as a label by others.

We are in no way legalistic, we consider ourselves a part of the body of Christ, and here in Australia our halls are given free of charge to groups like the Salvation Army to use on Sunday to plant evangelical Christian Churches. In Alaska we share a number of halls with Regular Baptists. We are members of the Baptist World Alliance and have much in common with Evangelical Churches.

http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org

http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=609017

Edited November 8, 2004 by Hebrew Hammer

[Guest shiloh357]

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shiloh357

You should have checked their site before judging them. They are not trying to justified by keeping the Sabbath

[stevehut]

Actually Steve, they are not trying to be justified by observing the law.  You should have checked their site before judging them.  Here was they say from the link provided above:

Oh, I am quite familiar with their doctrines. Regardless of their "official" doctrine, there is really no other reason to place such an important emphasis on Sabbath observance. And it is still wrong to impose it on someone else.

[Guest yod]

. Regardless of their "official" doctrine, there is really no other reason to place such an important emphasis on Sabbath observance. And it is still wrong to impose it on someone else.

where did he even once imply that this should be 'forced' on anyone?

It is the Sunday church who seeks to intimidate by accusation of legalism a day that can not be justified by scripture.

In other words, who is judging who in relation to the Sabbath?

I know folks on both sides of this issue who have no grace for those with different opinions. Those are who Paul calls "weak" in the faith (romans 14). We who are strong in the faith should not cause them to stumble by our actions or words.

What our Aussie baptist friend has just told you is historically accurate. If anyone wishes to restore the practise or traditions of the original church, why would any other christian have a problem with it?

I've never understood the opposition to that....

All I can figure is that they are insecure in their own doctrines and have to "proove" someone else wrong to feel justified in their own.

"Go to church day" is not the same thing as a Sabbath rest. They are two different concepts which can mutally co-exist in harmony.

[Guest shiloh357]

Actually Steve, they are not trying to be justified by observing the law.