For those that believe in the Big Bang, what was there before?

[MarkNigro]

 

 

Sorry, i missed the part about 24 hours

Could you highlight it for me.please, oh and leave out any passages that do not mention the 24 hours

Day always means 24 hours. If God said this must be done in 2 days and 10 years later nothing was done, what would God think.

No, day does not always mean 24 hours.

In the English language 7 meanings for the word is given in the dictionary

The Hebrew word Yom has multiple meanings and is used in multiple ways in Gen 1 and 2

 

 

Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty, said the following:

 

Mathew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

 

Mark 13:31

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

 

Luke 21:33

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

 

Obviously the words of Jesus Christ do not pass away. 

 

So where can the words of Jesus Christ be.

 

Maybe they are just in heaven and no place on the Earth.

 

But from the Old Testament we have the following:

 

Deuteronomy 30:12

It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

 

Maybe they are locked up in the manuscripts, in a language that few could understand, meaning most people would not have the word of God.

 

Deuteronomy 30:13

Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

 

In fact they are available for us in our own native tongue.

 

Deuteronomy 30:14

But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

 

 

So it is in plain English.

 

A day is 24 hours. 

 

Ten days ago ....

 

You must do the following within 10 days.

 

It has rained for 5 days straight ...

 

 

The language in Genesis and Exodus 20 is plain English. One day (evening and morning are used) is 24 days.

[JDavis]

Sorry, i missed the part about 24 hours

Could you highlight it for me.please, oh and leave out any passages that do not mention the 24 hours

Day always means 24 hours. If God said this must be done in 2 days and 10 years later nothing was done, what would God think.

No, day does not always mean 24 hours.

In the English language 7 meanings for the word is given in the dictionary

The Hebrew word Yom has multiple meanings and is used in multiple ways in Gen 1 and 2

Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty, said the following:

Mathew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mark 13:31

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 21:33

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Obviously the words of Jesus Christ do not pass away.

So where can the words of Jesus Christ be.

Maybe they are just in heaven and no place on the Earth.

But from the Old Testament we have the following:

Deuteronomy 30:12

It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

Maybe they are locked up in the manuscripts, in a language that few could understand, meaning most people would not have the word of God.

Deuteronomy 30:13

Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

In fact they are available for us in our own native tongue.

Deuteronomy 30:14

But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

So it is in plain English.

A day is 24 hours.

Ten days ago ....

You must do the following within 10 days.

It has rained for 5 days straight ...

The language in Genesis and Exodus 20 is plain English. One day (evening and morning are used) is 24 days.

Again...the English language has 7 different meanings for the word day.

Please educate yourself before making such silly claims, it would save a lot of time

[MarkNigro]

 

 

 

 

Sorry, i missed the part about 24 hours

Could you highlight it for me.please, oh and leave out any passages that do not mention the 24 hours

Day always means 24 hours. If God said this must be done in 2 days and 10 years later nothing was done, what would God think.

No, day does not always mean 24 hours.

In the English language 7 meanings for the word is given in the dictionary

The Hebrew word Yom has multiple meanings and is used in multiple ways in Gen 1 and 2

Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty, said the following:

Mathew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mark 13:31

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 21:33

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Obviously the words of Jesus Christ do not pass away.

So where can the words of Jesus Christ be.

Maybe they are just in heaven and no place on the Earth.

But from the Old Testament we have the following:

Deuteronomy 30:12

It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

Maybe they are locked up in the manuscripts, in a language that few could understand, meaning most people would not have the word of God.

Deuteronomy 30:13

Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

In fact they are available for us in our own native tongue.

Deuteronomy 30:14

But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

So it is in plain English.

A day is 24 hours.

Ten days ago ....

You must do the following within 10 days.

It has rained for 5 days straight ...

The language in Genesis and Exodus 20 is plain English. One day (evening and morning are used) is 24 days.

Again...the English language has 7 different meanings for the word day.

Please educate yourself before making such silly claims, it would save a lot of time

 

The language of Genesis and Exodus 20 are plain and easy to understand. 

 

You did not even address the other things like the flood, the order of creation, the evening and morning.

 

You are trying to strain at a gnat, but the camel is against you.

 

1 day is 24 hours or God lied in Exodus 20:11.

 

God does not lie

 6 24-hour days.

[JDavis]

Sorry, i missed the part about 24 hours

Could you highlight it for me.please, oh and leave out any passages that do not mention the 24 hours

Day always means 24 hours. If God said this must be done in 2 days and 10 years later nothing was done, what would God think.

No, day does not always mean 24 hours.

In the English language 7 meanings for the word is given in the dictionary

The Hebrew word Yom has multiple meanings and is used in multiple ways in Gen 1 and 2

Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty, said the following:

Mathew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mark 13:31

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 21:33

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Obviously the words of Jesus Christ do not pass away.

So where can the words of Jesus Christ be.

Maybe they are just in heaven and no place on the Earth.

But from the Old Testament we have the following:

Deuteronomy 30:12

It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

Maybe they are locked up in the manuscripts, in a language that few could understand, meaning most people would not have the word of God.

Deuteronomy 30:13

Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

In fact they are available for us in our own native tongue.

Deuteronomy 30:14

But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

So it is in plain English.

A day is 24 hours.

Ten days ago ....

You must do the following within 10 days.

It has rained for 5 days straight ...

The language in Genesis and Exodus 20 is plain English. One day (evening and morning are used) is 24 days.

Again...the English language has 7 different meanings for the word day.

Please educate yourself before making such silly claims, it would save a lot of time

The language of Genesis and Exodus 20 are plain and easy to understand.

You did not even address the other things like the flood, the order of creation, the evening and morning.

You are trying to strain at a gnat, but the camel is against you.

1 day is 24 hours or God lied in Exodus 20:11.

God does not lie

6 24-hour days.

One step at a time...

So do you now openly admit that the 24 hour day of Gen is based on assumptions?

[MarkNigro]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, i missed the part about 24 hours

Could you highlight it for me.please, oh and leave out any passages that do not mention the 24 hours

Day always means 24 hours. If God said this must be done in 2 days and 10 years later nothing was done, what would God think.

No, day does not always mean 24 hours.

In the English language 7 meanings for the word is given in the dictionary

The Hebrew word Yom has multiple meanings and is used in multiple ways in Gen 1 and 2

Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty, said the following:

Mathew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mark 13:31

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 21:33

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Obviously the words of Jesus Christ do not pass away.

So where can the words of Jesus Christ be.

Maybe they are just in heaven and no place on the Earth.

But from the Old Testament we have the following:

Deuteronomy 30:12

It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

Maybe they are locked up in the manuscripts, in a language that few could understand, meaning most people would not have the word of God.

Deuteronomy 30:13

Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

In fact they are available for us in our own native tongue.

Deuteronomy 30:14

But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

So it is in plain English.

A day is 24 hours.

Ten days ago ....

You must do the following within 10 days.

It has rained for 5 days straight ...

The language in Genesis and Exodus 20 is plain English. One day (evening and morning are used) is 24 days.

Again...the English language has 7 different meanings for the word day.

Please educate yourself before making such silly claims, it would save a lot of time

The language of Genesis and Exodus 20 are plain and easy to understand.

You did not even address the other things like the flood, the order of creation, the evening and morning.

You are trying to strain at a gnat, but the camel is against you.

1 day is 24 hours or God lied in Exodus 20:11.

God does not lie

6 24-hour days.

One step at a time...

So do you now openly admit that the 24 hour day of Gen is based on assumptions?

 

Not at all. It says a evening and a morning = 1 day = 24 hours.

 

And not one topic at a time at all.

[JDavis]

Not at all. It says a evening and a morning = 1 day = 24 hours.

And not one topic at a time at all.

I am not sure what part of the planet you live in, but where i am the time between evening and morning is about 11 hours and that changes with the seasons.

Can we at least agree the word day has more than one meaning?

And yes, one step at a time is the only way to tackle this....it is like eating an elephant....one bite at a time

[TsukinoRei]

 

Not at all. It says a evening and a morning = 1 day = 24 hours.

And not one topic at a time at all.

I am not sure what part of the planet you live in, but where i am the time between evening and morning is about 11 hours and that changes with the seasons.

Can we at least agree the word day has more than one meaning?

And yes, one step at a time is the only way to tackle this....it is like eating an elephant....one bite at a time

 

 

 Noes!  Protect the elephants!

[MarkNigro]

 

Not at all. It says a evening and a morning = 1 day = 24 hours.

And not one topic at a time at all.

I am not sure what part of the planet you live in, but where i am the time between evening and morning is about 11 hours and that changes with the seasons.

Can we at least agree the word day has more than one meaning?

And yes, one step at a time is the only way to tackle this....it is like eating an elephant....one bite at a time

 

It means 24 hours. 

[~candice~]

The Bible, is not a science book and does not offer a scientific account of creation. It is unfair and unreasonable to hold the Bible, which is pre-science, to the standards of modern scietntific precision. I would not judge a novel by the standards and rules that govern poetry. I would not read a newspaper the same way I read a cookbook. I would not read a biography of George Washinton the same way I would read science fiction. In same way, it is rather ridiculous to judge a nonscientific account that makes no scientific claims by modern scientific standards.

Science, by virtue of its inability to detect anything outside the natural world, will never disprove creation by God.

That's mostly what I've been saying!

Although at least one person must have read a biography of Abraham Lincoln like a science fiction! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1611224/

So...

If the bible doesn't give a scientific account of creation, then how does one know that the BB as God's means of creation, is in conflict with the bible's account of origins?

Totally baffled by this.

I totally agree that the bible doesn't contain a scientific account of creation. And you can get some people to acknowledge this. But then when asked to interpret Genesis, or to hold up scientific findings in light of Genesis, they immediately revert to reading Genesis as science.

I'm going mad.

Nicely said

God certainly spoke it into existence according to the Holy Bible. But Genesis 1 gives a different order than those that believe God used the Big Bang and then billions of years.

The Holy Bible is quite clear that God created everything in 6 days about 6,000 years ago.

There is no way to reconcile the Big Bang billions of years ago and what the Holy Bible clearly says.

A scientific reading of Genesis clashes with evolution. I dont think we should read it scientifically though.

but that said, evolution is not synonymous with the big bang. The time periods in which they operate don't overlap.

In fact, even if we were to wrongly read Genesis as science, I don't see how it is possible for the BB timeline to clash because there literally is no timeline.

You guys have me seriously baffled. Its as if you think the term big bang refers to the creation of plants and animals?

[MarkNigro]

 

 

 

 

 

The Bible, is not a science book and does not offer a scientific account of creation. It is unfair and unreasonable to hold the Bible, which is pre-science, to the standards of modern scietntific precision. I would not judge a novel by the standards and rules that govern poetry. I would not read a newspaper the same way I read a cookbook. I would not read a biography of George Washinton the same way I would read science fiction. In same way, it is rather ridiculous to judge a nonscientific account that makes no scientific claims by modern scientific standards.

Science, by virtue of its inability to detect anything outside the natural world, will never disprove creation by God.

That's mostly what I've been saying!

Although at least one person must have read a biography of Abraham Lincoln like a science fiction! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1611224/

So...

If the bible doesn't give a scientific account of creation, then how does one know that the BB as God's means of creation, is in conflict with the bible's account of origins?

Totally baffled by this.

I totally agree that the bible doesn't contain a scientific account of creation. And you can get some people to acknowledge this. But then when asked to interpret Genesis, or to hold up scientific findings in light of Genesis, they immediately revert to reading Genesis as science.

I'm going mad.

Nicely said

God certainly spoke it into existence according to the Holy Bible. But Genesis 1 gives a different order than those that believe God used the Big Bang and then billions of years.

The Holy Bible is quite clear that God created everything in 6 days about 6,000 years ago.

There is no way to reconcile the Big Bang billions of years ago and what the Holy Bible clearly says.

A scientific reading of Genesis clashes with evolution. I dont think we should read it scientifically though.

but that said, evolution is not synonymous with the big bang. The time periods in which they operate don't overlap.

In fact, even if we were to wrongly read Genesis as science, I don't see how it is possible for the BB timeline to clash because there literally is no timeline.

You guys have me seriously baffled. Its as if you think the term big bang refers to the creation of plants and animals?

 

Genesis 1 is the very record of how God created everything in 6 days.

 

It is literal.