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But what kind of God would have used evolution over billions of years?

 

What is billions of years to an eternal Being?

Well that is true. But God's word is important to God, because God does not lie.

 

True, but one can argue what "evening" and "morning" were before the Sun was created. And one can argue whether our understanding of the word "yom" is correct.

 

The point of my question, though, is jiggle your thinking to consider that perhaps this argument is not as logical as you might think it seems. In presenting your case to influence an argument, please consider that it does fall short, and perhaps it would behoove you to attempt a different approach.

Light was created on day 1. It made the evening an morning until the Sun was created.

1. What was that light? What was its source?

2. How did that light create evening?

 

As to day, they are numbered in Genesis 1 and it says 6 days in Exodus 20:11. These are always 24 hour days.

Which is defined by the Earth's the location of the sun relevant to the observer.

But you are still side-stepping the point.

Yo asked "what kind of God would...take billions of years?"

My answer was - What is billions of years to an eternal Being?

God has never been in hurry with anything. So why hurry with Creation?


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1. What was that light? What was its source?
 

God was the light.

 

 

2. How did that light create evening?

 

The Earth began to rotate.

 

It's a theory.

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1. What was that light? What was its source?

 

God was the light.

If that's the case, then what was God before He said, "Let there be light"? :huh:

 

 

2. How did that light create evening?

 

The Earth began to rotate.

 

It's a theory.

But if God was the light, and God is everywhere, how would Earth's rotation create evening?

Our mornings and evenings are caused by the interaction of the Sun and the Earth's rotation.

Without the Sun, what would Earth's rotation do with regards to light illumination?


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Like I said, It's a theory. It's not even my theory...but for the sake of discussion, explain your thoughts?

 

What was the light?

Where did we all come from?

 

 

Are you suggesting there are things God cannot do?


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The Holy Bible is quite clear. God created everything in 6 days about 6,000 years ago.

 

Now some believe that God created everything but used the Big Bang and billions of years of evolution before people came on the scene.

 

But what kind of God would have used evolution over billions of years?

 

The Holy Bible is very clear that God did not use billions of years and evolution. So if God did use billions of years and evolution, He does appear to be deceitful. 

 

Also if evolution did occur over 1 billion years, just think of all the death, disease, and savagery that a multitude of animals suffered. None of this could be explained by the sin of Adam and Eve since they came much later. In fact God must have intended and enjoyed that.

 

Death, suffering, and disease of course must have been God's intent for the world and not the result of the sin of Adam and Eve.

 

So when the Holy Bible says:

 

Genesis 1:31

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

 

God must have thought that death, suffering, and disease were very good. Adam and Eve must have looked at Him and thought "are you kidding me"

 

No wonder they did not believe God in Genesis 3.

 

 

The God of the Holy Bible, the real God, the Creator did not use evolution or  billions of years.

 

The god of this world, Satan, invented the lie of evolution. That is the god who used evolution, as a lie.

What kind of God might use the Big Bang and evolution? An omnipotent and omniscient one might. The discerning reader might also note, as nebula pointed out, that 'evening' and 'morning' are not going to have an obvious meaning before the sun supposedly is created, and therefore might wonder about the historical factualness of the creation account in general. Perhaps the aim of it is spiritual and theological in nature rather than an attempt to lay out precisely how God created the universe.


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1. What was that light? What was its source?

 

God was the light.

 

 

2. How did that light create evening?

 

The Earth began to rotate.

 

It's a theory.

 

So God is a literal photon source, like a lightbulb? No, I don't think I could subscribe to that hypothesis. That is clearly a non literal use of the word 'light'.


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1. What was that light? What was its source?

 

God was the light.

 

 

2. How did that light create evening?

 

The Earth began to rotate.

 

It's a theory.

 

So God is a literal photon source, like a lightbulb? No, I don't think I could subscribe to that hypothesis. That is clearly a non literal use of the word 'light'.

 

 

 

God is what ever He wants to be. Can do all things. With Him all things are possible, so the argument "God couldn't have done it that way" becomes futile. You are claiming to have a better understanding of the word light than God?

 

God created photons, yet you think you are smart for knowing they exist? Funny.


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1. What was that light? What was its source?

 

God was the light.

 

 

2. How did that light create evening?

 

The Earth began to rotate.

 

It's a theory.

 

So God is a literal photon source, like a lightbulb? No, I don't think I could subscribe to that hypothesis. That is clearly a non literal use of the word 'light'.

 

 

 

God is what ever He wants to be. Can do all things. With Him all things are possible, so the argument "God couldn't have done it that way" becomes futile. You are claiming to have a better understanding of the word light than God?

 

God created photons, yet you think you are smart for knowing they exist? Funny

 

 

 

The claim that God  *is* a literally photon source is problematic on many levels, one is simply that God is not a physical being, and existed prior to any photons existing.


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On a side note...

 

God exists outside of time. He does not need anything from us to make things happen. We have no understanding of the ways of the Lord. The age of the Earth/Universe debate is a non issue. Time only means something if you want it to. To God, it is whatever he made it. He is the creator and exists outside of the creation.

 

He does not need billions of years, but if that's what He wanted then that's what you get. You get what God gives you, and if you are smart, you say 'thank you'.


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On a side note...

 

God exists outside of time. He does not need anything from us to make things happen. We have no understanding of the ways of the Lord. The age of the Earth/Universe debate is a non issue. Time only means something if you want it to. To God, it is whatever he made it. He is the creator and exists outside of the creation.

 

He does not need billions of years, but if that's what He wanted then that's what you get. You get what God gives you, and if you are smart, you say 'thank you'.

I don't see how that is relevant to what actually happened. No one on either side denied God's omnipotence.

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