Chick-fil-A manager shames nursing mom

[GoldenEagle]

I'm torn honestly-part of me thinks women should be allowed to nurse-on the other I've always been an advocate of the rights of a private company, that right or wrong they should have the right to do business as they see fit. Which is why I asked the question so I can get someone else's perspective.

 

I'm not so sure that if a business were to put up a sign such as this...

 

 

That it would go over too well. Say that such a sign were legal. How many families would simply boycott the business just because of this?

At least I would imagine in the U.S. anyway...

 

God bless,

GE

[GoldenEagle]

 

Im going to jump in here and play devils advocate here. the comment was made earlier that since open breastfeeding was legal in tennesee, that chic fil A was breaking the law. Well, they wern't-I do believe the law also states that private businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason, as well. So which law triumphs?

 

What do you think Pat?

 

 

Breastfeeding is legal in Tennessee and exempt from indecency laws with children up to 12 months old. No idea why it's 12 months but there it is. I would imagine that CFA could've asked the mother to leave for any reason. However, if the reason was that she was breastfeeding her child there could've been a potential lawsuit.

 

From what I've read it's really up to the owner of the business how things go down. I'll look into it further though... That is a good question.

 

God bless,

GE

[GoldenEagle]

Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads.

 

I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC.  When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything.

 

While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude.

 

God Bless you all

Firestormx

Joseph

 

Thanks for sharing brother.

God does have a sense of humor sometimes no?

[Guest Butero]

When I first saw the title of the story, without having read it, my first reaction was the manager was clearly wrong.  Then I read the story, and my opinion changed.  Yes, the law in Tennessee allows her to nurse in public.  Personally, I would have no objection to what she was doing.  At the same time, the only reason the manager said anything was he had other patrons coming to him asking him to intervene, because they didn't feel good about their children seeing that in the playground area.  All he did was ask her to cover herself for their sake.  That seems reasonable to me, under the circumstances.  Now she wants to start this ridiculous protest.  Any sympathy I had for her is gone. 

 

Like it or not, some people are not comfortable with things we consider ok.  Sometimes there is nothing we can do about it, but in other cases, we could make reasonable accomodations so as not to offend others.  Why we think we have to do something, just because we can, is beyond me? 

 

One other thing.  Does anyone know anything about this woman's politics?  It wasn't that long ago a bunch of people were protesting Chic Fil-A over a comment by the owner that was anti-homosexual.  It backfired on them, as many of us rallied to the fast food place and ate food their when we hadn't planned to originally.  Could this be a political stunt?  It wouldn't surprise me if it was? 

[Guest man]

 

Why we think we have to do something, just because we can, is beyond me?

 

 

Exactly!!!   

[~candice~]

 

 

Why we think we have to do something, just because we can, is beyond me?

 

 

Exactly!!!   

 

 

Yep.

 

Because it's a self focussed action.

[Guest ninhao]

There is more to the timing of breast feeding than most people consider. It is worth investigating when considering why a mother will nurse in public because the mother most likely has.

 

 

Formula-Feeding and Breastfeeding are Different

 

Babies who are breastfed should be fed on demand, or rather, whenever they seem to be hungry. This directly contradicts standard practice of formula feeding, and that can be a huge problem because that is the infant feeding method that most people possess any knowledge of. On-demand feeding promotes a healthier metabolism for both mother and baby, a healthier digestive process for baby, and helps to maintain the mother's milk supply. Breastfed babies who are fed on demand have less incidence of colic, constipation, gas, or other digestive complaints that are associated with the lowered digestibility of scheduled formula feedings. A mother who feeds her baby on-demand will more easily recognize hunger cues from her infant, which will allow her to feed before the baby actually cries. This is thought to be an essential part of developing emotional and physical security in infants.

 

Benefits of On-Demand Feeding

 

Research shows that on-demand feeding reduces a child's risk for obesity later in life. It is believed that breastfed babies learn to eat when they are hungry and stop eating when they are full, whereas formula-fed babies are placed on a rigid schedule that doesn't fully allow for changing nutritional needs during growth periods.

 

 

 

Breast feeding on demand

 

It is interesting considering the obesity crisis in western countries and some help might be right under our nose ( or our mother's necks ).

[~candice~]

There is more to the timing of breast feeding than most people consider. It is worth investigating when considering why a mother will nurse in public because the mother most likely has.

 

 

Formula-Feeding and Breastfeeding are Different

 

Babies who are breastfed should be fed on demand, or rather, whenever they seem to be hungry. This directly contradicts standard practice of formula feeding, and that can be a huge problem because that is the infant feeding method that most people possess any knowledge of. On-demand feeding promotes a healthier metabolism for both mother and baby, a healthier digestive process for baby, and helps to maintain the mother's milk supply. Breastfed babies who are fed on demand have less incidence of colic, constipation, gas, or other digestive complaints that are associated with the lowered digestibility of scheduled formula feedings. A mother who feeds her baby on-demand will more easily recognize hunger cues from her infant, which will allow her to feed before the baby actually cries. This is thought to be an essential part of developing emotional and physical security in infants.

 

Benefits of On-Demand Feeding

 

Research shows that on-demand feeding reduces a child's risk for obesity later in life. It is believed that breastfed babies learn to eat when they are hungry and stop eating when they are full, whereas formula-fed babies are placed on a rigid schedule that doesn't fully allow for changing nutritional needs during growth periods.

 

 

 

Breast feeding on demand

 

It is interesting considering the obesity crisis in western countries and some help might be right under our nose ( or our mother's necks ).

 

It is the healthiest option for mother and baby, usually. We should support both breastfeeding and modesty.

[The_Patriot21]

Ive been doing some thinking on this, and Im going to have to take the side of the business on this one-at least from a legal standpoint. Every business, right or wrong, should have the right to refuse business to anyone they see fit. period. Whether we think its right or wrong, they should have that right. So from a legal perspective, I am 100% against any legal action being taken against chic-fil-A. They should not be forced to allow this.

 

On the other hand, people also have the right to boycott and demonstrate. If they wont allow this, I have no issues with people boycotting chic-fil-A and taking their business elsewhere, that is their perogative. So from a business standpoint, chic-fil-A making this a common practice of banning nursing moms may not be a wise move.

[GoldenEagle]

Ive been doing some thinking on this, and Im going to have to take the side of the business on this one-at least from a legal standpoint. Every business, right or wrong, should have the right to refuse business to anyone they see fit. period. Whether we think its right or wrong, they should have that right. So from a legal perspective, I am 100% against any legal action being taken against chic-fil-A. They should not be forced to allow this.

 

On the other hand, people also have the right to boycott and demonstrate. If they wont allow this, I have no issues with people boycotting chic-fil-A and taking their business elsewhere, that is their perogative. So from a business standpoint, chic-fil-A making this a common practice of banning nursing moms may not be a wise move.

 

Perhaps think of it this way...

They trump each other. So if the woman would be allowed to be there without Breastfeeding then the Breastfeeding law wins. If they can say they wouldn't let her be there even if she wasn't Breastfeeding then the private business law wins. Make sense?