Black teens kill white Australian student "for fun"

[TsukinoRei]

 

 

 

 

Umm - "mixed race"? I have not encountered anyone who identifies themself as "mixed raced" rather than what ethnicity defines their key features and their identity. All mixed white-black people I have known consider themselves "black".

 

 

 

 

Now you've met me!    People of mixed race all over the world identify in a wide variety of ways!

 

See a wide range of terminology here;  http://www.mixedfolks.com/names.htm

 

Here are some experiences that many mixed people DO have in common;

 

http://www.drmariaroot.com/doc/50Experiences.pdf

 

And some more;

 

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/19-signs-you-are-multiracial/

 

 

 

North America is still in the process of shedding the 'one-drop' rule of the apartheid era.  Many mixed people are rebelling against the idea that other people in society have the right to impose a particular racial identity onto them based on their appearance.

 

 

“The Bill of Rights for Racially Mixed People”

by Dr. Maria P.P. Root

I have the right:

• not to justify my existence in this world
• not to keep the races separate within me
• not to be responsible for people’s discomfort with my physical ambiguity
• not to justify my ethnic legitimacy

I have the right:

• to identify myself differently than strangers expect me to identify
• to identify myself differently than how my parents identify me
• to identify myself differently than my brothers and sisters
• to identify myself different in different situations

I have the right:

• to create a vocabulary to communicate about being multiracial
• to change my identity over my lifetime – and more than once
• to have loyalties and identify with more than one group of people
• to freely choose whom I befriend and love

http://mixed-me.ca/?page_id=10

 

9 Million Americans identify as mixed race.  

 

http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/27/census-more-people-identify-as-mixed-race/

 

Check out the Hapa Project to see how a wide variety of mixed asian people self identify!

 

http://seaweedproductions.com/the-hapa-project/

 

Interestingly;

http://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2013/06/06/conservatives-more-likely-than-liberals-to-identify-mixed-race-individuals-as-black-nyu-study-finds.html

 

 

 

Conservatives are more likely than liberals to identify mixed-race individuals as Black, according to a series of new studies by researchers at New York University. Their findings, which appear in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, suggest that there is a link between political ideology and racial categorization.

 

People choose to identify with a particular race, it is not assigned to them. They want to be Mexican-Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans. But whites are racist if they try to identify themselves as some type of hyphen American. Americans want diversity with inclusiveness, but choose to segregate themselves. There can be all black schools, but don't even try to have an all white school! Make sense to you? You can't stop racism as long as you choose to perpetuate it.

 

 

There are lots of people in my links who include various forms of Caucasian in the hyphens.  Lots more Caucasians these days look to their various European roots - celebrate being Germanic, Irish, Welsh, Danish, French - you name it!  A perspective that is gaining popularity is that there is really no such thing as race other than the Human Race, and that there is no such thing as ethnic purity as it can be shown that we are all genetically mixed!  Government legislation and social policy is really behind the times on this.  I don't believe that there should be any different laws or policy favouring some people over others, or separating people based on the silly outdated idea of race.

[Guest]

Amen.

[nebula]

 A perspective that is gaining popularity is that there is really no such thing as race other than the Human Race, and that there is no such thing as ethnic purity as it can be shown that we are all genetically mixed!  Government legislation and social policy is really behind the times on this.  I don't believe that there should be any different laws or policy favouring some people over others, or separating people based on the silly outdated idea of race.

 

 

Agreed.

 

Which goes back to the problem posted. The news media turned the Zimmerman-Martin tragedy into a race issue that it was not, the "black advocates" perpetuated the lie, and one or two of these teens acted on that lie. The black-against-white hatred is being stirred in the name of equality. It's sickening.

[nikki1]

 

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Enough said....  

 

The statistics check out.  Not that I get the impression people here would be open to that fact.

 

 

 

The statistics check out compared to what other  media?   Meaning one that is not the most influential voice for African Americans only?  How about  using a media that does not speak for just one segment of society?

 

I, and I know many others, frown upon several  long copy and paste links.  Many people use them to try to prove their point,  knowing others won't bother to read, (as you so implied) them because most people do not have the time, or interest to read multiple long copy and paste links.   By the way, what  the statistics say in Canada and what occurs in Canada does not  mean that is the case for the United States of America, which is what I thought  we are talking about in this case,  so your Canadian links really aren't applicable to this situation.  And your link quoting N YU cannot be considered unbiased as all Americans know New York State is a very strong liberal, left wing, anti-conservative state.

[TsukinoRei]

 

 

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Enough said....  

 

The statistics check out.  Not that I get the impression people here would be open to that fact.

 

 

 

The statistics check out compared to what other  media?   Meaning one that is not the most influential voice for African Americans only?  How about  using a media that does not speak for just one segment of society?

 

I, and I know many others, frown upon several  long copy and paste links.  Many people use them to try to prove their point,  knowing others won't bother to read, (as you so implied) them because most people do not have the time, or interest to read multiple long copy and paste links.   By the way, what  the statistics say in Canada and what occurs in Canada does not  mean that is the case for the United States of America, which is what I thought  we are talking about in this case,  so your Canadian links really aren't applicable to this situation.  And your link quoting N YU cannot be considered unbiased as all Americans know New York State is a very strong liberal, left wing, anti-conservative state.

 

 

The FBI and Bureau of Justice are not Canadian, but your statements illustrate perfectly why those who can't be bothered to read the links need not bother conversing with me. Ignorant statements such as these quickly become boring to argue against.  I prefer to be properly challenged so that even when discussing things with people I disagree with I may grow.  Your need to characterise my motives rather than analyse my statements further bores me.  I won't be responding to you again. 

[nikki1]

 

 

 

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The Call & Post was started in 1916 by Cleveland inventor Garrett Morgan and merged with the Cleveland Post in 1929 to become the Call & Post Newspaper. With the influence of editor & publisher W.O. Walker in 1932, the Call & Post established itself as the most influential voice for African Americans in all metropolitan regions throughout Ohio

 

 

Enough said....  

 

The statistics check out.  Not that I get the impression people here would be open to that fact.

 

 

 

The statistics check out compared to what other  media?   Meaning one that is not the most influential voice for African Americans only?  How about  using a media that does not speak for just one segment of society?

 

I, and I know many others, frown upon several  long copy and paste links.  Many people use them to try to prove their point,  knowing others won't bother to read, (as you so implied) them because most people do not have the time, or interest to read multiple long copy and paste links.   By the way, what  the statistics say in Canada and what occurs in Canada does not  mean that is the case for the United States of America, which is what I thought  we are talking about in this case,  so your Canadian links really aren't applicable to this situation.  And your link quoting N YU cannot be considered unbiased as all Americans know New York State is a very strong liberal, left wing, anti-conservative state.

 

 

The FBI and Bureau of Justice are not Canadian, but your statements illustrate perfectly why those who can't be bothered to read the links need not bother conversing with me. Ignorant statements such as these quickly become boring to argue against.  I prefer to be properly challenged so that even when discussing things with people I disagree with I may grow.  Your need to characterise my motives rather than analyse my statements further bores me.  I won't be responding to you again. 

 

 

 

I did challenge you, but it looks like  you did not like my response.    The burden of proof is upon you to prove your point, which you did not do.  If you don't want to respond to me, that won't bother me in the least.  But just so you know, I will continue to point out your errors for others  whenever I see them and continue to challenge your errors whether you respond or not.

[TsukinoRei]

 

 A perspective that is gaining popularity is that there is really no such thing as race other than the Human Race, and that there is no such thing as ethnic purity as it can be shown that we are all genetically mixed!  Government legislation and social policy is really behind the times on this.  I don't believe that there should be any different laws or policy favouring some people over others, or separating people based on the silly outdated idea of race.

 

 

Agreed.

 

Which goes back to the problem posted. The news media turned the Zimmerman-Martin tragedy into a race issue that it was not, the "black advocates" perpetuated the lie, and one or two of these teens acted on that lie. The black-against-white hatred is being stirred in the name of equality. It's sickening.

 

 

I agree that it's very sad and even sickening when the media stirs up racewars while claiming it's to further equality. But I don't understand if you are arguing that while the Zimmerman case was not a hate crime, the murder of the Australian ball player was a hate crime?  It seems to me that there isn't a case for either crime being racially motivated.  If there is a report that says that the Zimmerman tragedy motivated this murder then I'm missing it.  All the reports that I have read state two possible motives 1. the teenagers claiming it was for fun.  2. speculation that it was gang related.  I do agree that hate crimes happen.  Black people kill white people, and white people kill black people, and just about every other kind of vs mix you can think of, all for stupid racist reasons.  I just don't see enough evidence that this is one of those times.

[nikki1]

 

 

 

 

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The Call & Post was started in 1916 by Cleveland inventor Garrett Morgan and merged with the Cleveland Post in 1929 to become the Call & Post Newspaper. With the influence of editor & publisher W.O. Walker in 1932, the Call & Post established itself as the most influential voice for African Americans in all metropolitan regions throughout Ohio

 

 

Enough said....  

 

The statistics check out.  Not that I get the impression people here would be open to that fact.

 

 

 

The statistics check out compared to what other  media?   Meaning one that is not the most influential voice for African Americans only?  How about  using a media that does not speak for just one segment of society?

 

I, and I know many others, frown upon several  long copy and paste links.  Many people use them to try to prove their point,  knowing others won't bother to read, (as you so implied) them because most people do not have the time, or interest to read multiple long copy and paste links.   By the way, what  the statistics say in Canada and what occurs in Canada does not  mean that is the case for the United States of America, which is what I thought  we are talking about in this case,  so your Canadian links really aren't applicable to this situation.  And your link quoting N YU cannot be considered unbiased as all Americans know New York State is a very strong liberal, left wing, anti-conservative state.

 

 

The FBI and Bureau of Justice are not Canadian, but your statements illustrate perfectly why those who can't be bothered to read the links need not bother conversing with me. Ignorant statements such as these quickly become boring to argue against.  I prefer to be properly challenged so that even when discussing things with people I disagree with I may grow.  Your need to characterise my motives rather than analyse my statements further bores me.  I won't be responding to you again. 

 

 

 

I did challenge you, but it looks like  you did not like my response.    The burden of proof is upon you to prove your point, which you did not do.  If you don't want to respond to me, that won't bother me in the least.  But just so you know, I will continue to point out your errors for others  whenever I see them and continue to challenge your errors whether you respond or not.

 

 

 

The Bureau of Justice as you call it is the Dept. of Justice, headed up by Attorney General  Eric Holder, who reports to Obama.  Eric Holder has as much said that black crimes against white people would not be prosecuted under the Department of Justice, so this source too is biased.  The same goes for the FBI, who also reports to the Obama regime.

 

Attorney General Eric Holder Refuses To Apply The Law Equally Photos

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/attorney-general-eric-holder-refuses-to-apply-the-law-equally

 

In June 2009, during his testimony before a Senate panel considering new hate crimes legislation, Attorney General Eric Holder clearly suggested that any new laws passed would not apply to white victims. When Sen. Jeff Sessions pressed Holder into saying exactly who would be protected under such laws, Holder gave his opinion that only those who have been subjected to “the unfortunate history of our nation,” should receive the added protection.

 

Last summer, dozens of so-called ‘flash mob’ attacks were committed by black teenagers on white victims…both President Obama’s and Eric Holder’s silence on this issue spoke volumes.

 

More recently, there has been a rash of black-on-white violence since the Trayvon Martin shooting. In fact, at least one of the attackers reportedly told his victim the blows he was receiving were in retribution for the Trayvon tragedy.

 

What follows are a few of the crimes upon which the Department of Justice has refused to take any action:

 

Teenager set ablaze in reported racial attack...

 

White tourist beaten unconscious by black mob in Baltimore caught video...

 

FBI drops hate crime investigation

 

To read the above stories, see link

 

Again, Obama and Holder have refused to mention the attacks, nor file federal hate crimes charges against the accused perpetrators.

 

Of course, Obama felt the need to use his bully pulpit to tell the nation that if he "had a son...he woudl look like Trayvon."

 

However, the president did not feel the need to extend his sympathies when a former U.S. Marine was allegedly beaten to death by a group of black men in Georgia.

 

More at above link

[nebula]

I agree that it's very sad and even sickening when the media stirs up racewars while claiming it's to further equality. But I don't understand if you are arguing that while the Zimmerman case was not a hate crime, the murder of the Australian ball player was a hate crime?  It seems to me that there isn't a case for either crime being racially motivated.  If there is a report that says that the Zimmerman tragedy motivated this murder then I'm missing it.  All the reports that I have read state two possible motives 1. the teenagers claiming it was for fun.  2. speculation that it was gang related.  I do agree that hate crimes happen.  Black people kill white people, and white people kill black people, and just about every other kind of vs mix you can think of, all for stupid racist reasons.  I just don't see enough evidence that this is one of those times.

 

 

As I posted earlier:

 

One of three teens charged in the 'thill kill' of an Australian college student in Oklahoma last week has previously posted racist tweets on his Twitter account, according to a report.

 

The Daily Caller reported that the tweets belonged to James Francis Edwards, 15. One tweet from his account reads, "90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM." Another post read, "Ayeee I knocced out 5 woods since Zimmerman court!:)"

 

The Daily Caller's report noted that 'woods' is used as a derogatory term for white people.

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/teen-charged-in-thrill-kill-australian-college-student-in-oklahoma-has-racist/#ixzz2chyXODYq

[TsukinoRei]

 

I agree that it's very sad and even sickening when the media stirs up racewars while claiming it's to further equality. But I don't understand if you are arguing that while the Zimmerman case was not a hate crime, the murder of the Australian ball player was a hate crime?  It seems to me that there isn't a case for either crime being racially motivated.  If there is a report that says that the Zimmerman tragedy motivated this murder then I'm missing it.  All the reports that I have read state two possible motives 1. the teenagers claiming it was for fun.  2. speculation that it was gang related.  I do agree that hate crimes happen.  Black people kill white people, and white people kill black people, and just about every other kind of vs mix you can think of, all for stupid racist reasons.  I just don't see enough evidence that this is one of those times.

 

 

As I posted earlier:

 

One of three teens charged in the 'thill kill' of an Australian college student in Oklahoma last week has previously posted racist tweets on his Twitter account, according to a report.

 

The Daily Caller reported that the tweets belonged to James Francis Edwards, 15. One tweet from his account reads, "90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM." Another post read, "Ayeee I knocced out 5 woods since Zimmerman court!:)"

 

The Daily Caller's report noted that 'woods' is used as a derogatory term for white people.

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/teen-charged-in-thrill-kill-australian-college-student-in-oklahoma-has-racist/#ixzz2chyXODYq

 

 

Ahhh, I see now.  Even so, his group was of varied ethnicity and it does trouble me that this fact is being 'white washed' so to speak, in favour of painting this as a clear-cut racially motivated crime.  Doesn't that create the same sort of spin that we agree has come from the media with tragic effect?