FIRST step is OUR OWN -Timothy 2:19

[Raimi Stranger]

NO-ONE can stop sinning and turn to Love for you

you either Love in obedience to Jesus and God's commandment to Love

or Jesus is not one's lord at all,

no matter what one might wish or even say:-

Luke 6:46  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

 

a 'lord' is the one one OBEYS ... sinners obey Satan's temptings to destroy themselves and this world with sins, abuse of others and themselves...

 

1 John 3:8  He that committeth sin is of the devil

 

so one is FORCED to DECIDE, sin is NOT Love, Love means no sinning -Ezek 18:20-24

 

You, nor anyone, can save, redeem, change  this very evil earth  -Rev 13:3-4 2 ,Peter 3:10-12 ....nor did Jesus ever mean to  -John 18:36

 

-resurrection is of BOTH saints and sinners freed of sin Rom 6:7, Acts 24:15

 

countless billions are saved LATER -Rev 7:9

 

as death frees a man from sin -Rom 6:7

 

so God can do as promised -Joel 2:28

once all freed from hell as Jesus says there is no 'eternal hell'

-Rev 20:13

 

so creedal religion is just a BIG MISUNDERSTANDING

caused by Satan -Rev 13:3-4

 

God got around this problem in His Plan from the beginning

Isaiah 46:10

 

Jesus died to bring anyone who Loves, stops abusing with sins, the Truth from God Himself-  NOT MEN

 

the few who actually do Love Matt 7:13-14,Jude 1:14, Rev 7:3-8, who stop abusing with sin receive the Truth from God 

-John14:26

THIS Jesus HIMSELF said he is what he died for

-John16:7

 

so religion of sinners deceives even about Jesus ... because it would not exist if sinners realised that all saints STOP sinning, chose Love FREELY ...and none can receive the spirit as a sinner without the Truth killing them, so Good will not usually baptise a sinner and kill them, no point usually in that except as a demo [as for example in OT and NT a few died]...

 

there is a MEANING behind repentance in water baptism the SEAL against sinners 2Tim 2:19 - forgoveness is not for just words one SAYS every week to a sinner dressed as a Levite but for CEASING sins to obey Jesus and Love all always

-Jesus and saints NEVER dress[ed] up as Levites as do the yet-divided mock priesthoods of religion of sinners do... just think what it will be like when they unite -Rev 13:3-4

 

the irony is that sinner priests do not even recognise Levites as priests, though they dress up like them... LOL? weep?

 

- but so at least it is easy to spot the fakes pretending to be holy by dressing up in fancy robes and even weird hats . Jesus and saints fail to be 'naked; like this by being dressed in Love , 'white robes' toward salvation ... one cannot be saved by dressing up or by listening to those who dress up. but only by Love, no more sin, and listening to God in spirit baptism because one took the first step oneself :-

 

FIRST step is OUR OWN stop abusing with sin, turn to Love all: 2 Timothy 2:19 the foundation of God standeth sure,,, depart from iniquity.

 

AS Jesus/Yeshua commands... Love not sin

 

anointed king by the TRUE gospel of the Christ/Messiah [ there are so many fakes that Jesus told us how to know] :-

 

Mark 14:9  Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

 

Ezekiel 37:22  And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

 

Romans 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

Isaiah 9:7  Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

 

John 18:36  Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world

 

Isaiah 65:17  For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
Isaiah 66:22  For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
2 Peter 3:13  Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

Revelation 21:1  And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

 

the MANY are destroyed , FEW find the way to love now, obey Jesus... BUT teh few are saved FIRST to save the many LATER -Rev 7:9-10 at judgement day, but by WORKS [Rev 20:13[ AFTER DEATH  and resurrection of the unjust, freed of sin [Rom 6:7] in the kingdom come of Jesus Christ built and run under Jesus by the FEW saved now as saints of this earth, king-priests, , the  ROYAL priesthood  of the new covenant with Israel [Jer 31:31-34] 1Pet 2:9-10, the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF Israel ...

 

but the House of Israel never were Jews and were scattered worldwide long before the Jews [House OF JUDAH]:-

 

Deuteronomy 28:64  And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

 

note these are not Judaists , never accept Judaism. were and are rejected by most Jews ... but they are true descendants of Jacob mixed into EVERY NATION on earth, living as gentiles, worshipping false gods until the saints reach them as Jesus commanded his followers to do :-

 

Matthew 10:6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

 

understand then that the teaching of mass religion is FALSE according to the very scripture they say they believe ! - and Jesus told you it MUST be so, so listen to Jesus, not to sinners in fancy robes and hats which Jesus BANNED  saints take no second coat, only their Love, but sinners do hide behind Levite robes , their false authority in place of Love ...

Edited August 29, 2013 by Raimi Stranger

[CAP73]

There's more than one Timothy.

[kwikphilly]

Hello Raimi,

      I welcome you to Worthy Christian Forums and I understand you have not posted any question and I do believe that perhaps you had some reason for referring to chapter versus but are those your interpretations of the scriptures.....they really have nothing to do with the context of each,I just don't get it,I am very confused.....

     You began with John18:36 saying( Jesus never meant to nor can He save the earth) May I ask what that has to do with Jesus explaining to Pilate that His kingdom is not here(heaven,which Pilate did not understand,and Pilate is questioning Jesus as He was delivered to him by His own people?

      You referred to both Acts24:15 as well as Romans 6;7saying(resurrection is of both saints and sinners freed from sin)Are not saints believers in Christ and all are not without sin?How dohes Pauls being purified in the Temple relate to "To die with Christ is to live with Christ?''

       Referrance  to Revelation 7:9 you said(countless billions are saved LATER)  The multitudes in heaven are giving thanks to God and the Lamb...is your referrance that they came out of the Great Tribulation?

       Romans 6:7(death frees a man from sin)....Are you just interpreting this as physical death?This is not a single statement to be taken out of context when it is part of an entire explanation by Paul talking about dying with Christ....I'm not sure what you mean?

        Revelation 20:13    Where did Jesus say there is no eternal hell?  Paul sees the Great White Throne Judgement where anyone whos name is not written in the Book of Life is Cast into the lake of fire after(The sea gave up the dead who were in it,& Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them.And they were judged,each one according to his works....rev20:13)

   Creedal religion is a big MISUNDERSTANDING caused by satan?.....In Revelation 13:3-4 The dragon gives all power to the beast ,the world follows beast and worships  both the dragon and the beast ....they say"Who is like the beast?Who can make war against the beast''......Is this what you call "misunderstanding''

          Raimi,Let me stop here because I don't want you to misunderstand me or feel like I am trying in any way to offend you or have a debate,I am just confused by your statements and am wondering what you are trying to say.....because I care about you as my brethren and therefore it matters to me what you are trying to say

                                                                                               God bless you in Christ Jesus,Kwik

[Leonard]

Congrats! And thanks! I haven't had that great a laugh over some "Bible interpretation" for a long time. I love reductio ad absurdum when used for humor!