Human Being = Trash

[LatentAuthor]

 

 

I have to disagree. First of all, the problem is more a matter of us humans being poor stewards of this earth God gave us to live on and take care of than it is overpopulation.

 

As a small example, we could greatly improve our waters by merely establishing riparian boarders around every river, stream, and creek. 

 

 

Secondly, the position you have presented paints human beings more as a disease to this earth, a problem to be eliminated, rather than as precious lives with value.

 

 

That's simply not realistic.  90% of freshwater consumption worldwide goes to industry and farming, with industrialized nations consuming far more than their third world counterparts.  Our global population is growing by 80 million per year, and that population increasingly uses more water due to life-style and eating habits resulting in 64 billion cubic liter increase in demand each year. Couple this with the fact that third world countries that lack adequate clean water supplies are suffering from massive health crisis associated with them - 5,000 children each day, for example, die from diarrhoea. 

 

Now consider that most population growth is occurring in developing nations without sufficient access to clean water while industrialized countries with more controlled populations are using more and more of the world's very limited supply of fresh water.  Perhaps we tend not to see this as an issue because we take it so for granted.

[nebula]

 

 

I have to disagree. First of all, the problem is more a matter of us humans being poor stewards of this earth God gave us to live on and take care of than it is overpopulation.

 

As a small example, we could greatly improve our waters by merely establishing riparian boarders around every river, stream, and creek. 

 

 

Secondly, the position you have presented paints human beings more as a disease to this earth, a problem to be eliminated, rather than as precious lives with value.

 

 

That's simply not realistic.  90% of freshwater consumption worldwide goes to industry and farming, with industrialized nations consuming far more than their third world counterparts.  Our global population is growing by 80 million per year, and that population increasingly uses more water due to life-style and eating habits resulting in 64 billion cubic liter increase in demand each year. Couple this with the fact that third world countries that lack adequate clean water supplies are suffering from massive health crisis associated with them - 5,000 children each day, for example, die from diarrhoea. 

 

Now consider that most population growth is occurring in developing nations without sufficient access to clean water while industrialized countries with more controlled populations are using more and more of the world's very limited supply of fresh water.  Perhaps we tend not to see this as an issue because we take it so for granted.

 

 

You make it sound as if industrialized nations and developing nations are drawing from the same source of fresh water.

 

From what I've seen third world countries lack clean water because they dump raw sewage into the rivers and people use them for the bathroom. Some populated areas even have open sewers.

 

Decreasing their population will not fix the lack of sanitation practiced in these countries.

 

And it is funny to hear you cry about overpopulation in one sentence and then hear you cry about 5,000 children dying a day in the next.

[LatentAuthor]

You make it sound as if industrialized nations and developing nations are drawing from the same source of fresh water.

 

 

Not directly, but the fact of the matter is that there is only so much to go around - at some point we are going to no longer be able to keep up with demand if it simply keeps growing.  The point is that many of these countries simply do not have access to enough clean water to ever become first world countries - their populations are growing too fast and all the countries around them are gobbling up as much water as they can anyway.  There isn't enough to go around as it is - and continuing to increase demand with population growth only makes the problem worse.

 

 

And it is funny to hear you cry about overpopulation in one sentence and then hear you cry about 5,000 children dying a day in the next.

 

Why is that funny?  

Edited November 23, 2013 by LatentAuthor

[nebula]

 

And it is funny to hear you cry about overpopulation in one sentence and then hear you cry about 5,000 children dying a day in the next.

 

Why is that funny?  

 

 

Because of the irony. It reminds me of what Scrooge said about decreasing the surface population.

[Guest]

Human life is precious, but I also focus on quality as well as quantity. I realize we are not the only species in existence, nor are we the only species that matters - all life is precious, and our well-being is tied to the well-being of the whole. Part of being good stewards is also making sure we don't overpopulate; such wasn't a problem in biblical days, but it is a looming problem now and one our children and grandchildren will pay dearly for if we don't change our behavior as a species.

 

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Beloved Look Around, We Are Getting Worst Not Better

 

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. Psalms 2:1-3

 

The World Is Full Of Man's Rage And Hatred

 

And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Genesis 6:5

 

So Who You Gonna Call

 

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13

 

Huh

[jerryR34]

Sometimes, I believe God thinks we are trash.  He can dispose of us whenever he feels necessary (Noah's flood, multiple genocides of Israeli enemies, Revelation, Hell).  Our only value is in how much we can glorify Him.  We are disposable if we don't give him praise and worship.

[OakWood]

Sometimes, I believe God thinks we are trash.  He can dispose of us whenever he feels necessary (Noah's flood, multiple genocides of Israeli enemies, Revelation, Hell).  Our only value is in how much we can glorify Him.  We are disposable if we don't give him praise and worship.

 

God does not think of us being trash. We are his children.

[jerryR34]

 

Sometimes, I believe God thinks we are trash.  He can dispose of us whenever he feels necessary (Noah's flood, multiple genocides of Israeli enemies, Revelation, Hell).  Our only value is in how much we can glorify Him.  We are disposable if we don't give him praise and worship.

 

God does not think of us being trash. We are his children.

 

Easy to say, but what would you say about all the people washed away in the flood?  Did the babies, todlers, children have a say?

[other one]

[marvalusxoxo]

well... how wonderful it is to know that as believers and followers of our Savior Jesus Christ; we are not disposable for He by His work on the cross disposed of all our sins that we may belong to His family. Praise and Honor be His.