Guest shiloh357 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yeah, the article is a farce. We would not expect to find any soft tissue in large dinosaur bones after 65 million years. We would not expect to find a trace of carbon, much less soft tissue after the long of period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromeasttowest Posted February 13, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 29 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2014 Genesis says "And the Earth gave forth" that means evolution to me. I think God created us using His organized and perfect system called natural selection. Dinosaurs happened in between the lines of "fish of the sea and birds of the air" Since birds are the descendants of dinosaurs. This makes sense. Biologos.org Is for Christians who believe God created evolution. Much like how a computer whiz writes a program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 13, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2014 What a well thought out rebuttal to the article posted by Spock. Glad we only deal in proof and not ad hominem attacks on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 13, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Genesis says "And the Earth gave forth" that means evolution to me. I think God created us using His organized and perfect system called natural selection. Dinosaurs happened in between the lines of "fish of the sea and birds of the air" Since birds are the descendants of dinosaurs. This makes sense. Biologos.org Is for Christians who believe God created evolution. Much like how a computer whiz writes a program. Hello fromeasttowest. That's quite interesting....why don't you start a new thread with your Main Ideas: (Evolution/Natural Selection/Dino's to Birds) and see what kind of response you receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted February 14, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2014 Enoch, I have done some reading up on this since you started this thread and I could not find anything conclusive from either side that points to this possible soft tissue meaning the earth has to be young. Lots of issues to overcome besides age of the earth on this one. Like someone mentioned, surviving 6000 years or 65 million years, so what? Bottom line: I could not find anything that said the presence of this soft tissue absolutely means a young earth. The issue In my opinion still is the reliability of dating the fossils (the age of these bones the soft tissue is attached to). This was my favorite article if you are interested:http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/soft-tissue-dinosaur-fossil.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 14, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Enoch, I have done some reading up on this since you started this thread and I could not find anything conclusive from either side that points to this possible soft tissue meaning the earth has to be young. Lots of issues to overcome besides age of the earth on this one. Like someone mentioned, surviving 6000 years or 65 million years, so what? Bottom line: I could not find anything that said the presence of this soft tissue absolutely means a young earth. This was my favorite article if you are interested: http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/soft-tissue-dinosaur-fossil.htm Hey Spock, enjoyed reading it and I think I may have come across this before. Also the "Contamination" issue has long been debunked. I could not find anything that said the presence of this soft tissue absolutely means a young earth. Spock, nobody has to tell me I'm eating a Turkey Club. From your source: Because the prevailing scientific theory links dinosaurs and birds from an evolutionary standpoint, This Homology is nonsense and an Unproven Speculation. Just because the Lug Nuts from a Jeep can Fit on a Chevy doesn't mean they both evolved from a Tin Can 3 billion years ago. Common Designer? Perhaps? Schweitzer offers hypotheses for how the tissue could have survived so long. One is that the densely mineralized bone, combined with as-yet-undiscovered geological or environmental processes, protected the structures within Do I even have to comment? Fallacy.....Argument to The Future. It's a Clumsy one @ that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted February 14, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2014 Enoch, Sorry bro, that was about the best I could do for you on this thread. I added this sentence to my prior post-this issue still comes down to the reliability of radiometric dating on the fossils and rocks. But, I'm glad you have peace through your studies. That's important. Reading all these science threads and corresponding articles are making my head get bigger and bigger which I am now afraid of some kind of spontaneous combustion. Think Green Mile scene. Ouch! Take care, Spock out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 14, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Enoch, Sorry bro, that was about the best I could do for you on this thread. I added this sentence to my prior post-this issue still comes down to the reliability of radiometric dating on the fossils and rocks. But, I'm glad you have peace through your studies. That's important. Reading all these science threads and corresponding articles are making my head get bigger and bigger which I am now afraid of some kind of spontaneous combustion. Think Green Mile scene. Ouch! Take care, Spock out ================================================================================================================= Sorry bro, that was about the best I could do for you on this thread. I added this sentence to my prior post-this issue still comes down to the reliability of radiometric dating on the fossils and rocks Yes Sir, I know it. There's no way out Reading all these science threads and corresponding articles are making my head get bigger and bigger which I am now afraid of some kind of spontaneous combustion. Think Green Mile scene. Ouch! Pace yourself I Love it when you guys post with SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. I'm built to SCRUTINIZE down to the apostrophe LOL.......and that's from either side. Military has ruined me....I guess it's a Curse and a Blessing. Good Day Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 14, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2014 I Love it when you guys post with SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. I'm built to SCRUTINIZE down to the apostrophe LOL.......and that's from either side. Military has ruined me....I guess it's a Curse and a Blessing. Good Day Sir Speaking of SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, would you mind give a little bit of that for this statement you made... IN FACT, There is some evidence that MOSES was given the Torah LETTER BY LETTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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