joejkljkl Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 119 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2014 A few of you have been helping me minister to someone. I've taken your advice about getting this person saved, but now I need help in getting this person righteous (making this person more moral). What should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2014 Is it really your job to do?Is it a woman?Is there a particular reason you want that person to become more moral?Are they a Christian or thinking about becoming a Christian?If you are trying to tell this person how to live their life you might come off as being too controlling.I think you definately need to pray for that person.Only God can change the heart.When a person first becomes a Christian sometimes it takes them awhile to grow in Christ.At first they might be living their life as they did before they became a Christian and that means not changing their ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,849 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 2,013 Days Won: 24 Joined: 07/08/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/15/1996 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Just as you can't make a person get saved you also can't make a person be moral. Only God can do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Just as you can't make a person get saved you also can't make a person be moral. Only God can do either. Amen Logan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,143 Content Per Day: 4.61 Reputation: 27,834 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2014 Blessings joe    Joe,none are righteous,we cannot ever BE righteous nor can we make anyone else be,it is God's righteousness we live in.I really don't understand what you are trying to do with this person,it sounds as though you are trying to change a person somehow,by efforts?joe ,we cannot change people or make them into what we think they should be..............we are to spread the Gospel to people & if I when we are guided by the Holy Spirit to be there for them as they walk their walk with Christ then we do so as the Holy Spirit directs us(leads) It is not up to us to decide what needs changing,their transformation is a result of becoming a new creature in Christ Jesus and it is done by the Power of the Holy Spirit,Christ will give them His Holy Spirit if & when & at the appropriate time and as they receive Him      Joe,pray about this,,,,are you even commissioned by God to be ministering to this person?What leads you to believing this assignment is yours?I ask these questions because sometimes people think they need to Save everyone & it is not always Gods Will for them but to plant that seed                                                                                                                                  With love-in Christ.Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2014 As Kwik said, we become transformed through the Holy Spirit. 2.Romans 12:2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:1-3 (in Context) Romans 12 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations 3.2 Corinthians 3:18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 3 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris. Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) One could always start by extraction of the logs in ones own eyes and set a good but humble example to follow. Â God is the guy who takes the specks out of others eyes, dont worry about it he will sort that out or not. Â We all leave this life alone and account only for our own lives. Share the good news of salvation by grace not the religious order of moral policing because adherence to the law wont save anyone. Â Hearing the message of salvation and trusting in it begins the desire to conform and change and sin less. Â If it does not come from the heart of a seeker of Jesus to please God it is worthless! Â Â I hope that helps anyway. Edited April 25, 2014 by Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejkljkl Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 119 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm sorry you all misunderstood me. This person persecutes me and I'm trying to get it to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris. Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry you all misunderstood me. This person persecutes me and I'm trying to get it to stop. That's different completely. Ignore them and talk to someone who likes you instead. Harassment without a reaction is a futile and boring exercise. Edited April 25, 2014 by Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark thompson Posted April 25, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 154 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/12/1986 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Our job is to let them know how to be moral and how to come to faith but it is up to them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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