WN: 'Humiliate Christians Until They Convert' - Arutz Sheva

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In a sermon earlier this year, a British Islamist leader outlined how under an "Islamic State" Christians and other non-Muslims would be systematically humiliated and persecuted to encourage their women and children to convert to Islam.

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[OakWood]

Pure evil.

[JustinM]

Western Civilization has become too civilized to its detriment.  We are now incapable of identifying, confronting and stopping evil.  The islamists will overreach at some point and the Western World will realize that its very survival is at stake and will fight back, but it will be at great cost.

 

The West is still in denial.

[Qnts2]

Things have changed in Muslim countries but what is mentioned had been a somewhat standard practice. Now, some Muslim countries out right ban Christians and Jews and some do worse.

 

Sephardic Jews and Bukharan Jews lived in Muslim countries for centuries. As 'people of the book', they were allowed to live in the countries. They did have to pay a special tax and a few other things. Generally speaking, the Jewish people who lived in Islamic countries viewed themselves as doing well. Sadly, so called 'christian countries', European and Russia, were considered much worse and with more violence and persecution against Jewish people then in Muslim countries. So, this is all perspective I guess.      

[OakWood]

Things have changed in Muslim countries but what is mentioned had been a somewhat standard practice. Now, some Muslim countries out right ban Christians and Jews and some do worse.

 

Sephardic Jews and Bukharan Jews lived in Muslim countries for centuries. As 'people of the book', they were allowed to live in the countries. They did have to pay a special tax and a few other things. Generally speaking, the Jewish people who lived in Islamic countries viewed themselves as doing well. Sadly, so called 'christian countries', European and Russia, were considered much worse and with more violence and persecution against Jewish people then in Muslim countries. So, this is all perspective I guess.      

 

Christians and Jews always had a hard time in Muslim countries. The concept of Muslim tolerance is a historical myth, bandied about by revisionist historians. People of the book lived as dhimmis, but as longs as they paid the annual jizyah were protected from being killed. They did, however suffer persecution and humiliation. This of course was being dictated by the teachings of the Q'uran.

Any Christian persecution of Jews came about through the misconception of replacement theology which is not scriptural.

[Qnts2]

From wiki:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

 

 

Historian Mark R. Cohen writes that conclusions about Jewish life under Islamic rule can only be derived through a comparative approach. Jews of Islam experienced less physical violence than Jews under Western Christendom.^[32] Cohen believes a reason for this may be that Islam, unlike Christianity, did not need to establish a separate identity from Judaism.^[33] He also states that Jewish people were less threatening to Muslims than Christians during the Middle Ages.^[34] Isolated events of persecution did occur but this does not change the fact that Jewish people were treated adequately.^[35] Cohen also notes that many people have used the myth that Jews were mistreated under Muslim rule to bolster their political standpoints in response to propaganda

 

I am also adding a link for the term dhimmi, which was a legal status for a non-Muslim living in a Muslim land. Today, in some Muslim countries, dhimmis are no longer allowed to live in the countries.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

[*Zion*]

Western Civilization has become too civilized to its detriment.  We are now incapable of identifying, confronting and stopping evil.  The islamists will overreach at some point and the Western World will realize that its very survival is at stake and will fight back, but it will be at great cost.

 

The West is still in denial.

 

The irony is the western 'civilization' can even call itself civilized, as we all well know how the enemy has used such labels to excuse annihilations of peoples, usurpation of land and ravaging exploitation of their natural resources.  It's the same devil, whatever clothes you put on him.  He hates human beings, not just Christians or Israel.  It's just that genuine believers of God will follow God and not him, so he puts up a bigger fight against us.

 

This whole world is in denial. Whatever the humiliation, it won't be because we're so dainty and civilized, or that we're not.  It's because we belong to Jesus.  satan hates that.

[OakWood]

From wiki:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

 

 

Historian Mark R. Cohen writes that conclusions about Jewish life under Islamic rule can only be derived through a comparative approach. Jews of Islam experienced less physical violence than Jews under Western Christendom.^[32] Cohen believes a reason for this may be that Islam, unlike Christianity, did not need to establish a separate identity from Judaism.^[33] He also states that Jewish people were less threatening to Muslims than Christians during the Middle Ages.^[34] Isolated events of persecution did occur but this does not change the fact that Jewish people were treated adequately.^[35] Cohen also notes that many people have used the myth that Jews were mistreated under Muslim rule to bolster their political standpoints in response to propaganda

 

I am also adding a link for the term dhimmi, which was a legal status for a non-Muslim living in a Muslim land. Today, in some Muslim countries, dhimmis are no longer allowed to live in the countries.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

 

Don't believe Cohen. He is a politically-correct revisionist. A lot of Muslim history has been debunked. There are many other sources from Jewish writers at the time who have explained just how harsh life was for Jews under Muslim rule. Islam was very harsh on Jews.

Cohen is amongst the many 'Progressive Liberal' historians who is telling the multicultural audience what it wants to hear - make Islam look good, make Christianity look bad. He writes for the Huffington Post. Enough said.

[Qnts2]

 

From wiki:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

 

 

Historian Mark R. Cohen writes that conclusions about Jewish life under Islamic rule can only be derived through a comparative approach. Jews of Islam experienced less physical violence than Jews under Western Christendom.^[32] Cohen believes a reason for this may be that Islam, unlike Christianity, did not need to establish a separate identity from Judaism.^[33] He also states that Jewish people were less threatening to Muslims than Christians during the Middle Ages.^[34] Isolated events of persecution did occur but this does not change the fact that Jewish people were treated adequately.^[35] Cohen also notes that many people have used the myth that Jews were mistreated under Muslim rule to bolster their political standpoints in response to propaganda

 

I am also adding a link for the term dhimmi, which was a legal status for a non-Muslim living in a Muslim land. Today, in some Muslim countries, dhimmis are no longer allowed to live in the countries.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

 

Don't believe Cohen. He is a politically-correct revisionist. A lot of Muslim history has been debunked. There are many other sources from Jewish writers at the time who have explained just how harsh life was for Jews under Muslim rule. Islam was very harsh on Jews.

Cohen is amongst the many 'Progressive Liberal' historians who is telling the multicultural audience what it wants to hear - make Islam look good, make Christianity look bad.

 

Just about everything I have read from the Jewish view, puts the life under Islamic rule, comparitively better then under European rule. The Jewish people, until 1948, were scattered (and still are scattered). So, there is a lot written about life in various countries and what it was like.

 

While there has been persecution in the U.S., the general feeling is that the U.S. has been good to the Jewish people. .   

[OakWood]

 

 

From wiki:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

 

 

Historian Mark R. Cohen writes that conclusions about Jewish life under Islamic rule can only be derived through a comparative approach. Jews of Islam experienced less physical violence than Jews under Western Christendom.^[32] Cohen believes a reason for this may be that Islam, unlike Christianity, did not need to establish a separate identity from Judaism.^[33] He also states that Jewish people were less threatening to Muslims than Christians during the Middle Ages.^[34] Isolated events of persecution did occur but this does not change the fact that Jewish people were treated adequately.^[35] Cohen also notes that many people have used the myth that Jews were mistreated under Muslim rule to bolster their political standpoints in response to propaganda

 

I am also adding a link for the term dhimmi, which was a legal status for a non-Muslim living in a Muslim land. Today, in some Muslim countries, dhimmis are no longer allowed to live in the countries.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

 

Don't believe Cohen. He is a politically-correct revisionist. A lot of Muslim history has been debunked. There are many other sources from Jewish writers at the time who have explained just how harsh life was for Jews under Muslim rule. Islam was very harsh on Jews.

Cohen is amongst the many 'Progressive Liberal' historians who is telling the multicultural audience what it wants to hear - make Islam look good, make Christianity look bad.

 

Just about everything I have read from the Jewish view, puts the life under Islamic rule, comparitively better then under European rule. The Jewish people, until 1948, were scattered (and still are scattered). So, there is a lot written about life in various countries and what it was like.

 

While there has been persecution in the U.S., the general feeling is that the U.S. has been good to the Jewish people. .   

 

 

Have you read from Jewish sources at the time?

You have also got to remember that some Jews would be tolerated under Islamic rule because they could manage administration and accounts, something that Muslims were useless at.. These were the Jews who worked in the Caliph courts. They were relatively well-treated until they outlived their usefulness.