Guest shiloh357 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 if we do not resist, it will soon be all over our face. I am all for peace and love, but when you take a look at the political trends and the entertainment industry, realizing your children will grow up in a world where completely unnatural things are considered a norm, it will give another angle at things. It's not how things are now, but where they are heading. We are not stoning anyone here, but might just as well get stoned in not so distant future for not hurraying for the triumph of the 'diversity'. The stakes are actually quite high with these issues. Give the devil the little finger, and he will take the whole arm. Would be nice if it was not so, but 'if' will not make the day. It's a world we are living in, and Jesus said Satan is the lord of this world. Don't follow the trends, it's mostly about deception. I know the deception, because I went too deep into it. Thank God Jesus found me. But then again, why wouldn't He? often as you get older there is fear and apprehension if things do not return to how you remember they were then things wil be bad in the future. The truth is change brings new opportunities and God is in control of what's happening. It will be ok! The generations before us worried for us too and our lives ended up pretty good. No, that is not what the Bible says. the Bible is always calling man back to the "way things were" when people called upon the Lord, when people served. Him. God is always calling man to return to Him. The entire story of the Bible is about God calling man back, restoring man back to the way things were. Homosexuality and gay marriage are both sins that God especially hates and these changes are not good nor are they opportunities for anything good. The past generations did worry about us and for good reason. We are making a mess of things and we are not listening to the voices of those past generations who taught the Word of God. We are forsaking truth for what feels good and we are about to pay a heavy price for our disobedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Guys every time you publicly condemn someone you raise an even higher wall of resistance from them to what you have to say. It also often aids the cause of who you condemn as many will take sides with who they feel sorry for and empathise with . There might be better ways.. No one has condemned anyone. We are pointing out their error and the sin they are in and what is happening to our country because this sin is being coddled, and normalized and those who oppose it are vilified as haters. Like Cobalt said, it is an attempt to silence anyone who has the courage to point out that homosexuality is a sin. Jesus had a lot to say to people that caused them to turn away from Him. The Gospel isn't a product to sell. It is a message to proclaim and the first step in presenting the Gospel is to confront sinners with the reality of their sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,840 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted June 5, 2014 Guys every time you publicly condemn someone you raise an even higher wall of resistance from them to what you have to say. It also often aids the cause of who you condemn as many will take sides with who they feel sorry for and empathise with . There might be better ways.. considering the in your face approach the Gays have had for the past 20 years, I don't think your way will have any success. It's one thing to not discriminate against someone you disagree with, but altogether a different thing when that person demands that you accept his/her deviant behavior as normal... It's way past time to draw a line in the sand on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) I'm coming in at the end of this thread for a specific reason, and to make a simple point on this topic... This is page 4 of 4. I want to address the topic concerning the demise of America, what helped to make this great nation even greater, and what may attribute to its impending fall. I scanned through the thread, just to make sure it remained on topic. Yes it does. Do we predominately agree? Yes we do. Was anything added to the subject of gay marriage, because it also attributes to the demise of America? Yes it was, because we also by majority agree, the travesty of abortion may be further cause towards our nation's demise. So we're still on the same page so to speak, on the topic. Am I correct so far? I am not an intellectual. Nor a biblical scholar. I came to Christ Jesus in 1972, had an affirmative born again experience, and love the Lord my God with all my heart. I became a member of Worthy, because I also am in agreement with and believe in The Statement of Faith. I trust we all are. I observe and adhere to the ToS: Terms of Service. If I make a mistake or state something and it gets misconstrued, I give due apologies and with sincerity, seek forgiveness. A large attraction about Worthy, is that it's a pro Judaic Christian ministry. The fact that it is inter-denominational, multi-ethnical, both Jew and Gentile and Gentile,was a major plus for me... More than I could have ever hoped for. Let's face it folks, America was and is blessed by the presence of God's Chosen Ones in our nation. They have influence of the diamond industry in New York City, and cinema in Hollywood, California. Yes, many found prosperity here. And we are benefactors of the Seed of Abraham, spiritually speaking... Are we not? From ancient history, through the 20th Century, empires and nations that rose up against Israel and the Hebrew lineage, crumbled and fell. During World War II, in the midst of the Depression, America and it's allies joined arms and defeated the Nazi Invasion. The devastation of the Holocaust ended... But not before the death of six million European Jews. After the ravages of the war, the disaster of the Great Depression ended. I don't wonder why. Do you? Now this issue of gay marriage has turned our nation into Sodom and Gomorrah. America is more than troubled. Things haven't been going well at all. Not since Roe vs. Wade... But my point is this: We don't have a president who favors Israel. And since his election, to present date, it looks like we're on a downhill slide to depravity. Very obvious, don't you think? Come 2016, I pray vote with caution and godly wisdom. We need a president who will stand up and stand behind Israel. Because we don't have one like that now. God bless you, Shalom Aleichem David/BeauJangles The Abrahamic Covenant: (KJV) Genesis 12: 2-3 [2] And I shall make of thee a great nation, and I shall bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing. [3] And I will bless them that bless thee, curse him that curseth thee. and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Edited June 6, 2014 by BeauJangles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,840 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted June 5, 2014 If my grandfather was still alive and you discussed the 1920's with him, he would be saying the same things about the 20's that we say about today. Morally the country went to hell in a hand basket according to him. It runs in cycles.. Just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 If my grandfather was still alive and you discussed the 1920's with him, he would be saying the same things about the 20's that we say about today. Morally the country went to hell in a hand basket according to him. It runs in cycles.. Just something to think about. Yes, it runs in cycles, and a plain look at the history of any nation or prominent government shows that, eventually, they all go into a harmful and morally-bankrupt cycle that they do not pull out of. We are there, right now. And as shiloh points out, the biggest problem from this side is not homosexuality itself. It is professing and unseasoned or fence-straddling "Christians" saying the sin is acceptable, or that a person can be gay and still be saved and we really shouldn't upset them by speaking out about it. One cannot be obedient to God and actively engaged in willful and habitual sin at the same time. And for the unsaved, they will never realize there is a spiritual option which can bring healing if the majority of the "Christian" community refuses to tell them out of fear of offending them, and at the same time tries to shame other Christians into remaining silent about sin as well. Another earmark of a society in steep decline is a majority of the populous that steadfastly refuses to speak out against wrongdoing with the misguided notion that it is either useless, or unloving to do so. When you refuse to try and help someone out of a life of bondage and personal harm, you directly indicate that you have no love for that person in the first place. You are not helping them, and you are not displaying love for them. Apathy, misguided "tolerance" and indifference are never the equivalence of love. Amen to all of that. "The lukewarm Christian is the sinner's alibi" ~ Adrian Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted June 5, 2014 It's perplexing. They believe love is truth, but that truth is hate. How does that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,840 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted June 5, 2014 It's perplexing. They believe love is truth, but that truth is hate. How does that happen? Luciferian logic.,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diatheosis Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 370 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 91 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2014 if we do not resist, it will soon be all over our face. I am all for peace and love, but when you take a look at the political trends and the entertainment industry, realizing your children will grow up in a world where completely unnatural things are considered a norm, it will give another angle at things. It's not how things are now, but where they are heading. We are not stoning anyone here, but might just as well get stoned in not so distant future for not hurraying for the triumph of the 'diversity'. The stakes are actually quite high with these issues. Give the devil the little finger, and he will take the whole arm. Would be nice if it was not so, but 'if' will not make the day. It's a world we are living in, and Jesus said Satan is the lord of this world. Don't follow the trends, it's mostly about deception. I know the deception, because I went too deep into it. Thank God Jesus found me. But then again, why wouldn't He? often as you get older there is fear and apprehension if things do not return to how you remember they were then things wil be bad in the future. The truth is change brings new opportunities and God is in control of what's happening. It will be ok! The generations before us worried for us too and our lives ended up pretty good. What do you think Jesus meant by His implications of the end times and the coming deception? I am no doom's day prophet, but putting all the pieces together, having chaos as a best selling product in the entertainment industry, right next to pornography, it gives a view of the way we are going. I trust God too, with all my life, and there's no hope for me outside of that. Sure, the whole Christendom has awaited for His coming, and thus also for the things He said would precede it for two thousand years. Many times people have been sure this is it. But then we did not have it like today. Everything is demanded to be accepted. Therefore, things like NAMBLA exist, and I don't even want to do into further detail of such. What is currently being achieved in science, will totally turn the whole thing upside down. I am not afraid of it. I am amazed by it. Seeing the Word of God, spoken a as a prophecy unveiled before my very eyes. How much more does it take to believe? Never forget, the concept that is described on the first pages of the Bible. That one, in which we are told doing the opposite what God has instructed us, will bring us to the truth. That tactic is being used all over again today. We are being brainwashed, our youth, and children. I am not a very conservative person in this sense, but common sense helps to put the pieces together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted June 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted June 5, 2014 We are no longer allowed to decide what is good and what is bad, people are deciding that for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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