Kent Hovind - Alex Jones - FREE Information

[Guest audiocreator]

Hi there,

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[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

I have seen Alex Jones quoted here before. He personally is not the problem. It is the focus that is.

I however want you to know that if there is a NWO? It is not beyond God's control and is contained inside of His Mighty Will. The Bible is quite clear. God wins.

However it is also quite clear that some will not make it. Therefore if we feel that these things are going on? We should preach the Gospel. That is the answer. So that if we are doing this? Then even those involved will be Saved.

The Lords heart is on the lost. There was a whole lot of conspiratorial things going on all around Him while He was here. He never ever lost His focus. He was focused on His Fathers perfect will.

The Conspiracy was afoot to kill Him. It only happened on His time and within His perfect will.

It is the kindeness of the Lord that leadeth a man to repentance. In repentance and rest lay your Salvation.

It is never the fear of the NWO that leads a man to repentance. It is the Hope of the Lord and a glimpse that He is alltogether Lovely and every man's hearts desire.

I am reading the voice of the martyrs. (DC Talks)(Christmas present). These Saint's of God were subjected to unspeakable horrors. Tortured and burned at the stake. By Godless Communists and the like. They were men and women that this world was not worthy of. One thing I have noticed. They were not afraid. They were at Peace. They had perfect Hope in Christ and His Word. The answer to their torturer's and imprisoner's was to Preach the Gospel. They preached it as they were tortured. They asked the Lord to forgive their tormentor's and lead them to Salvation. They lived lives Worthy of their Salvation. Their focus was Christ and His Gospel despite living in the midst of Conspiracy. A Conspiracy against God and His Kingdom and all those who could join the cloud of witness.

Peace,

Dave

[Guest audiocreator]

It is never the fear of the NWO that leads a man to repentance. It is the Hope of the Lord and a glimpse that He is alltogether Lovely and every man's hearts desire.

I agree, although finding out about the plan for a New World Order,(in my non christian days) did start me questioning why such a things could ever happen. I went looking for answers and found them all in the Bible, which totally changed my outlook on life.

Matthew 7:8 (shortend)- "he that seeketh findeth"

Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God!

Your fully correct in saying that in the end God comes out on top, but we should also fight the new world order with the word of god and let others see that we are doing it. When I say fight I mean spiritual warefare, shining the light on the darkness and showing people what is really going on in the world, the news behind the news so to speak. Sure we cannot beat it ourselves, thats not possible, but we have to be seen to be doing the lords good work.

Thanks for you're kind words Dave.

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Just incase a moderator reads this and is unsure if I'm telling the truth about these files being legally allowed to be downloaded I provide you with the following proof from the authors own websites.

If you could follow this link:-

http://www.drdino.com/Downloads/Seminar/vids/index.jsp

You will see the following.

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"Dr. Hovind's Creation Seminar Series are his most popular presentations. God has used the message they present to bring thousands of people closer to Christ. This 17-hour video series normally comes on seven downloadable files and is frequently updated to provide the most current information available. Unfortunately, due to lack of resources, we are no longer able to make available all 7 files. Please enjoy the first two videos of our 7-part award-winning package."

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They used to all be downloadable from the site, since he has to pay for bandwidth and many, many people want them, he was forced to only upload 2 because of the bandwidth cost issues. I decided I would help him out by getting copies and sharing them with the bandwidth that I have.

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And for the Alex Jones website, please follow this link.

http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/cw_rushing.htm

Third paragraph down.

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"Similarly, Kelly Rushing is no different than many Americans concerned about the direction their country is going and a man who wanted to do something about it if he could. So Rushing bought several of the Jones tapes so he could pass them around to his friends, a practice that Jones encourages on his web site InfoWars.Com where Jones specifically encourages his customers to make copies of his tapes and pass them along to others for

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Paul, I had to report your post. My apologies. I realize you are entitled to believe and follow anyone you choose, but on this board, conspiracy theories are not given credence and are not allowed. The "infowars" stuff has been proven to be nonsense. Actually, I'm surprised you posted the link - c'mon buddy, look at that stuff!

It's a smokescreen - designed by the enemy to take our focus away from Preaching Christ.

[Guest audiocreator]

I'm not telling you to drop the bible and read about the New World Order!

But there is a conspiracy at hand, and its here to usher in a global government controlled by the Antichrist!!

Cant you see the news changing? Implantable microchips (created by applied digital solutions), ID CARDS?

How long untill the mark of the beast is on the scene to keep us safe from "Terrorism"?

We have already been told that we may have to give up our freedoms and enter the cashless society because terrorists are using forged money to buy weapons and gain access to areas where they shouldnt be!

Believe me its true, Ive spent a whole load of time looking into it before I became a Christian. Infact it was the New World Order that got me interested in the bible.

The New World Order is real, it was announced years ago, the media mention it now and then, watch out for it!

Im not saying that you should spent all your time reading all of its history, you just need to know where we are today and its project for the future. The New World Order is the plan to scare us all into following the single global leader (antichrist).

Its not a smoke screen either, do you seriously thing Bush is a Christian?

Oh and who proved that its all "nonsense" as you put it? The media? well look how many people own the media compaired to 20 years ago. Go and look at the facts, youll find that this all ties in with the bible and the last days.

All I can do is warn people that this is important information, if you choose to ignore it, then do so.

[Ovedya]

I've heard "Dr. Dino" before. I listened to his seminars on creationism. His research is pretty good, but he also speculates a lot about how the earth was designed, how it was shortly after creation, etc.

I've heard it, but it's just not for me. The main problem with conspiracy theories is that they lead the saints away from the Lord's intention for the Body of Christ. The Lord is doing only one work in His Body in the last days. That work is the building up of the Body of Christ for His expression and His authority on the earth, and for her preparation to be the Bride. Anything that distracts from this work is just a frustration to Him. It is also a great frustration for those who are seeking to do His will.

Whatever you want to call it - New World Order, or otherwise - it is going to happen. Anybody who does not believe so is lacking in his understanding of the Lord's word in the Scriptures. But to stand against the emeny is not a matter of making the saints aware of the grand conspiracy! It is a matter of building them up into Christ. This is why we do not focus on the conspiracy theories. Simply warning the saints of a conspiracy and spreading fear is insufficient. We need to build up the Body of Christ through fellowship, encouragement, strengthening in the word, and even through the preaching of the Gospel. A newborn babe cannot be guarded against the enemies of the church by warning of a grand conspiracy. That only serves to spread fear and trepidation. What the newborn babe needs is to be fed on the milk, and eventually, the meat of the Word of God, so that he may grow up into Christ and be strengthened to withstand the enemy's attacks when they come. And they will come, rest assured.

So rather than looking to the earth and warning of the enemy, we should primarilly be concerend with looking to the heavens and cherishing the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ. We need to focus on Him alone.

Grace to you,

~O

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I'm not telling you to drop the bible and read about the New World Order!

But there is a conspiracy at hand, and its here to usher in a global government controlled by the Antichrist!!

Cant you see the news changing? Implantable microchips (created by applied digital solutions), ID CARDS?

How long untill the mark of the beast is on the scene to keep us safe from "Terrorism"?

We have already been told that we may have to give up our freedoms and enter the cashless society because terrorists are using forged money to buy weapons and gain access to areas where they shouldnt be!

Believe me its true, Ive spent a whole load of time looking into it before I became a Christian.  Infact it was the New World Order that got me interested in the bible.

The New World Order is real, it was announced years ago, the media mention it now and then, watch out for it! 

Im not saying that you should spent all your time reading all of its history, you just need to know where we are today and its project for the future.  The New World Order is the plan to scare us all into following the single global leader (antichrist).

Its not a smoke screen either, do you seriously thing Bush is a Christian?

Oh and who proved that its all "nonsense" as you put it? The media? well look how many people own the media compaired to 20 years ago.  Go and look at the facts, youll find that this all ties in with the bible and the last days.

All I can do is warn people that this is important information, if you choose to ignore it, then do so.

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George's Post about No More Conspiracy Theories

[Guest audiocreator]

Well, make sure you are putting your trust only in the lord and NOT in George W Bush.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1314.cfm <-- Why I feel Bush isnt a Christian.

Bush is a wolf in sheeps clothing who plans to try and mislead as many people in the christian church as possible.

I just find it a shame that we cannot talk about this stuff and how it relates to the end times, we now see China and Russia thinking about starting military manoevers next year, but I suppose that is a conspiracy theory too?

I find it amazing to look at the news and see what the bible has to say about it, I was hoping I could find a forum where others did the same and we were able to discuss it.

The plan for world government as predicted in

(Daniel 2:40-44; 7:23; Revelation 13:7-8)

The mark of the beast

(Revelation 13:16-17) - The company applied digital solutions now has the ability to be able to track and product or person around the globe.

Many so called "Christians" are crying out for something or someone that will keep them safe, my worry is that many people will be mislead into accepting the microchip for temporary safety and have their souls damned forever by accepting the mark of the beast, without them being aware of what it was

Im not trying to mislead anyone, I cant make you do anything with your spare time that you dont want too. Prophecy is an important part of the bible for me as it shows me how long I have left to witness to lost people, after all spending too much time online preaching to the converted isnt what we are meant to be doing. We are meant to be out winning souls and shining a light on the darkness of the world.

You have to know your enemy to have a good understanding of how to bring people out of the fire who are lead by it, who cannot see a problem with it, when shown the problem and they accept they are wrong, then you can introduce jesus.

You have to know what is wrong with mormonism to save mormons etc.

I have looked into witchcraft so I can highlight what is wrong with it and tell people who practice such things.

Are their people on this forum that call themselves "chrisitians?" but still continue to read books like Harry Potter? Im sure theyre are, many of my local church is consumed by Harry potter and feel that it is just another great book! When it is leading them into a dark place. Potter is based on the occult and aimed at children.

Youth would become increasingly rebellious

(2 Timothy 3:2-3; Mark 13:12).

Eschatology is something we should all be interested in, but thats just my opinion. Its our world clock. I'll drop the subject now.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1314.cfm <-- Why I feel Bush isnt a Christian.

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[Matthitjah]

audio,

It is hard to see that you are not here pushing an agenda. When you have posted the same link several times.

Like I said above. If you feel there is a One World Order afoot? That Bush isn't Christian? The best thing to do would be to Preach the Gospel. To spread the Good news.

Saving as many as you can.

I too was fascinated by the end times a few years ago. I studied hours to figure it out. One day I came to a revelation as I studied the Word. Worrying about this will not stop it. As a matter of fact God has complete control over it. He has predicted it. To show it to people without the Spiritual understanding to grasp it makes one look flaky. Better to Love your fellow human being into Salvation then scare them away. Better to live a life worthy of the Lord's Grace. Better to walk this thing out and practice True Religion. Becoming transparent so that all may see Christ. Dying to my thoughts and my ways and living to the new birth I am Ressurected into. For it is His Nature and Righteousness. His very Love that leadeth a man to repentance.

The Lord's Love is the complete opposite of fear. The realization that we are already twice dead and that we need God and His Grace to even live is what brings a man to his knee's.

Daniel knowing he was going into the lions den did nothing to resolve it. It was the Lord who closed the beasts mouth and calmed Daniels nerve. The threat of being cast into the fiery furnace did not break the resolve of the three Hebrew youths. They knew the nature of their God and that He would provide. He was able to carry them thru it. As they told Nebuchednezzar, "if not?" "We will still not bow to your idol." In fury Neb threw them in. As God would have it? God was Glorified and the grand witness of the Faith of the youths was on display for all of Babylon to see. The deliverance of God All Mighty. I'm sure to the Salvation of many. The Loving Kindness of God towards those He does Love.

Live a life unworthy of this world. For you are born of heaven and are an ambassador as such to those who may be called into the Kingdom.

Peace,

Dave

[Guest audiocreator]

When men stop looking for the truth, god will give them over to strong delusions, beware the media are lying to you about many issues.

Have you stopped looking for the truth?

Do you still believe what the media tell you?

Infowars.com is not a conspiracy theory site, its a site that only works with facts. It is the truth behind the news.

I put it to you that while many people have a firm belief in the bible, many are being also lead by ungodly men, which is a terrible shame, since our only leader is the lord.

Believe the Bible and seek the truth. The truth is simple, the lies are complex.

Good Luck.