other one Posted July 24, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,116 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,847 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2014 ps I have got nothing against Americans, its just the western capitalists who control the world that cause the problems. They control your media, and lobby both parties (Democrats and Liberals) so it doesn't matter which party you vote, you are essentially a one party state with the same international agenda. When a small party rises up, they are so ridiculed by the capitalist mainstream media that they never gain enough popularity to make any headway. So you remain a two-party (one party) state with an aggressive international agenda. The weak Islamic states are given undue media attention to keep the USA in fear of Islam, and in this way the population of the USA supports the rise of a new Middle Eastern beast. just keep in mind that Jacob Rothschild probably has more say so within our politics than does our president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,203 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Thank you to all those discussing & trying to keep the information in the now & not jump to the tribulation. So we have agreed that there are those who as Jesus said, `exercise authority,` over the Rulers of the Gentiles. They have their Global agenda & influence Governments. But to understand how we get from here to there in the tribulation we need to look at these main Governments, main `players,` & how they are constructing this Global World System with legal authority. The world names these Governments as the `Big 4,` or `the Quartet of Power.` They are - 1. UK / USA 2. EU 3. Russia. 4. UN. The UN however is controlled by the others, thus it does not have the same authority but `rides,` as it were, on the back of these other powers. Now we can put these World Powers into 2 camps as we all know - UK/USA + EU versus Russia. And over the years we have seen them fighting each other, - not on their soil but in `other people`s backyards,` as it were. As someone said about the need for 2 opposing sides - yes for it creates a market for the military & all the industry involved therein, plus conflict is a great motivator & mover of people in the direction `influences,` want people to go. Create a problem, then bring in the solution you wanted in the first place. So all this we know. Just clarifying it. UK / USA & EU are the biggest industrial, military & economic powers on the planet. They are the main legal authorities in the G7, G20, & UN. So what is their `game plan,` & what are they doing with legal authority to bring about control globally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,116 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,847 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2014 a lot of the powers of the UN are NGO's Corporation with a global reach that exert great power...... Monsanto is one example. They are working very hard to control total food production across the entire globe. Nestle is another that is working to control water globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,203 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi other one, Thanks for that info. Yes the UN (overseen by the big powers - UK/USA & EU) is bringing in NGO`s, civil soc, Gov. young people, etc etc, so we can all feel included & but not realising the manipulation. Nestles. Well they are just up the road from us here. Prefer Cadbury`s chocolate myself. Nestles make chocolate also. So working to control water, ay. We either have too little or too much like now on the farm. And yes water is a big issue, thanks for highlighting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted July 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 25, 2014 ps I have got nothing against Americans, its just the western capitalists who control the world that cause the problems. They control your media, and lobby both parties (Democrats and Liberals) so it doesn't matter which party you vote, you are essentially a one party state with the same international agenda. When a small party rises up, they are so ridiculed by the capitalist mainstream media that they never gain enough popularity to make any headway. So you remain a two-party (one party) state with an aggressive international agenda. The weak Islamic states are given undue media attention to keep the USA in fear of Islam, and in this way the population of the USA supports the rise of a new Middle Eastern beast. just keep in mind that Jacob Rothschild probably has more say so within our politics than does our president. Exactly! And his buddies are in key media/banking/government positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted July 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 25, 2014 So what is their `game plan & what are they doing with legal authority to bring about control globally? I believe their game plan is to create peace for Israel and build the masonic/Jewish temple there in such a timing that Israel and their temple will not be under threat. To do so they have to have world peace which involves taking over Islam completely. Many of the rituals of freemasonry involve the rebuilt temple or "Solomon's temple". Its no co-incidence that many world leaders just happen to be members of this "boys club"... there is more to it than a boys club. http://www.douglashamp.com/freemasons-the-third-temple-and-the-antichrist/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,203 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 We have agreed that there are people & groups influencing these government. But we need to realise that for their plans to come to fruition they must materialise into legal authority. So what are these powers - UK / USA & EU doing to bring about legal control globally. To know what they are doing presupposes that we can sort out amid all the events & happenings of the world what the key requirements for control are. It has been noted correctly in the posts that the banks play an important role. However we know it is only part of the control system. Remember the World`s Golden Rule - He who holds the gold, rules. As our money system has been separated from the gold it is now becoming - He who holds the `power to buy & sell,` rules. Note - the `Power to buy & sell,` involves two aspects, legally & globally. 1. The Banks - Finance, money, currency. 2. Personal Identification (ID) - Operating globally & with most involved. There needs to be a personal ID for everyone on the planet so they will be linked into the world`s system of operating. This personal identification needs to be more than just for the `face to face,` transactions - medical, financial, goods & services etc but also to facilitate internet commerce. Previously there has been a lack of secure ID for e-commerce & public services etc online. If you don`t know who you are dealing with, whether its banking or dating, then you are vulnerable to fraud & deceit. Most probably you will have to submit to cumbersome procedures - scanning & uploading documents to prove who you are. Now there has been much work into making systems that can recognise & verify digital ID`s, eg. Open ID connect, Mobile Connect. But promoting a digital ID that will be widely used & trusted is far harder. Facebook, Google & Twitter are all trying to make their accounts a form of ID. But these are issued without verification, so pseudonyms are rife & impersonations easy. Private providers are offering their own schemes, eg. miicard uses bank accounts as a way of issuing a verified online identity. But these fall short of the reliability of a state backed identity, issued by a government official, checked against other databases, using biometric data (eg. finger prints & retinal scans) & backed by law - in effect an electronic passport. An electronic passport that enables you to `buy & sell,` receive services, finance & myriads of other goods & services. An electronic passport that is your Global personal Identification. (ID) Is this in the future with the `mark` of the beast or is it in the here & now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 26, 2014 We have agreed that there are people & groups influencing these government. But we need to realise that for their plans to come to fruition they must materialise into legal authority. So what are these powers - UK / USA & EU doing to bring about legal control globally. To know what they are doing presupposes that we can sort out amid all the events & happenings of the world what the key requirements for control are. It has been noted correctly in the posts that the banks play an important role. However we know it is only part of the control system. Remember the World`s Golden Rule - He who holds the gold, rules. As our money system has been separated from the gold it is now becoming - He who holds the `power to buy & sell,` rules. Note - the `Power to buy & sell,` involves two aspects, legally & globally. 1. The Banks - Finance, money, currency. 2. Personal Identification (ID) - Operating globally & with most involved. There needs to be a personal ID for everyone on the planet so they will be linked into the world`s system of operating. This personal identification needs to be more than just for the `face to face,` transactions - medical, financial, goods & services etc but also to facilitate internet commerce. Previously there has been a lack of secure ID for e-commerce & public services etc online. If you don`t know who you are dealing with, whether its banking or dating, then you are vulnerable to fraud & deceit. Most probably you will have to submit to cumbersome procedures - scanning & uploading documents to prove who you are. Now there has been much work into making systems that can recognise & verify digital ID`s, eg. Open ID connect, Mobile Connect. But promoting a digital ID that will be widely used & trusted is far harder. Facebook, Google & Twitter are all trying to make their accounts a form of ID. But these are issued without verification, so pseudonyms are rife & impersonations easy. Private providers are offering their own schemes, eg. miicard uses bank accounts as a way of issuing a verified online identity. But these fall short of the reliability of a state backed identity, issued by a government official, checked against other databases, using biometric data (eg. finger prints & retinal scans) & backed by law - in effect an electronic passport. An electronic passport that enables you to `buy & sell,` receive services, finance & myriads of other goods & services. An electronic passport that is your Global personal Identification. (ID) Is this in the future with the `mark` of the beast or is it in the here & now? Why are you always pointing to America, UK, and the EU nations with that working? Don't you think Jews are involved too, those that Jesus called the "synagogue of Satan" in Rev.2 & 3? Are you not familiar with Adam Weishaupt, an othrodox Jewish professor of canon law that founded the Bavarian Illuminati in the 18th century designed to overthrow Christianity and the governments of the Western Christian nations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,116 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,847 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 26, 2014 Are you not familiar with Adam Weishaupt, an othrodox Jewish professor of canon law that founded the Bavarian Illuminati in the 18th century designed to overthrow Christianity and the governments of the Western Christian nations? who funded the expense to do that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 26, 2014 Are you not familiar with Adam Weishaupt, an othrodox Jewish professor of canon law that founded the Bavarian Illuminati in the 18th century designed to overthrow Christianity and the governments of the Western Christian nations? who funded the expense to do that??? The "synagogue of Satan" did, because they control the wealth of nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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