Is the trinity in the Bible?

[Guest Teditis]

This is a good example of Hipocracy that I come across. All to often I will hear or read someone say "where do you find ....... In the bible". Yet the same people fully embrace "The Trinity ".

No where in the bible will you find the word trinity. If all the scripture given not one has the word trinity in it.

I fully embrace the Trinity, but I also reject the sola scriptura way of faith. Christ passed his teaching on orally as well as the apostles so I accept oral tradition as well Christ left the Church the Holy Spirit to protect it and guide it.

God also gave us intelligence and the ability to reason. Is the word Trinity in the bible, No it is not. Can you find the Trinity described in the bible yes of course.

 

I think that it can be very confusing when some to hold to Sola Scriptura and then not allow for special revelation through

logic and reasoning. A certain level of hypocrisy can be the result. 

To me, Sola Scriptura simply puts the book of the Bible into a genre unto itself (God's inspired Word to us) but also allows for revelation/enlightenment from God through His many other ways of imparting truth. And as you point out, the example of the

Trinity is a great case in point. The word is not in scripture but the principle most definitely is. 

 

Nice post!

[Guest shiloh357]

Special Revelation doesn't come through logic or reason.  Special Revelation is God's supernatural self-disclosure.  In biblical times, it was through His prophets, visions, dreams, miracles, and the life and ministry of Jesus.  Today, His Special Revelation comes to us through His Word.   Logic and reason might be attributed to General Revelation, but not Special Revelation.

[Guest Teditis]

The Bible itself is Special Revelation... understanding through the Holy Spirit it is therefore the same.

So you're you're wrong again...

[Guest shiloh357]

The Bible itself is Special Revelation... understanding through the Holy Spirit it is therefore the same.

So you're you're wrong again...

But that is not the same as logic and reason.  Illumination from the Holy Spirit is altogether different.  Reason and logic are not synonymous with the illumination we receive from the Holy Spirit.  What we receive from the Holy Spirit is supernaturally imparted.  Reason and logic are not.  Sorry, but you're the one who is mistaken.

[Guest Teditis]

 

The Bible itself is Special Revelation... understanding through the Holy Spirit it is therefore the same.

So you're you're wrong again...

But that is not the same as logic and reason.  Illumination from the Holy Spirit is altogether different.  Sorry, but you're the one who is mistaken.

 

 

So you're saying that God doesn't use logic and reason to communicate with us, huh?

That's absurd. He's the Father of such things.

Why don't you consider trying not to correct everyone, you don't have

either the complete talent for it nor the fruit of agape love in you to be an

instructor.

Stick to the topic at hand too... your opinions of my opinions are meaningless.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

The Bible itself is Special Revelation... understanding through the Holy Spirit it is therefore the same.

So you're you're wrong again...

But that is not the same as logic and reason.  Illumination from the Holy Spirit is altogether different.  Sorry, but you're the one who is mistaken.

 

 

So you're saying that God doesn't use logic and reason to communicate with us, huh?

That's not what I said.  Don't assign false values to me.   God uses logic and reason, but what I said is that logic and reason are not Special Revelation. Special Revelation does not come through that avenue.

 

 

Why don't you consider trying not to correct everyone, you don't have

either the complete talent for it nor the fruit of agape love in you to be an

instructor.

 

I will respond as I choose to and I won't be seeking your consent on the matter.

 

 

Stick to the topic at hand too... your opinions of my opinions are meaningless.

 

You're the one who introduced this into the topic and I am just working off your incorrect view of Special Revelation.

[Guest Teditis]

 

 

 

The Bible itself is Special Revelation... understanding through the Holy Spirit it is therefore the same.

So you're you're wrong again...

But that is not the same as logic and reason.  Illumination from the Holy Spirit is altogether different.  Sorry, but you're the one who is mistaken.

 

 

So you're saying that God doesn't use logic and reason to communicate with us, huh?

That's not what I said.  Don't assign false values to me.   God uses logic and reason, but what I said is that logic and reason are not Special Revelation. Special Revelation does not come through that avenue.

 

 

Why don't you consider trying not to correct everyone, you don't have

either the complete talent for it nor the fruit of agape love in you to be an

instructor.

 

I will respond as I choose to and I won't be seeking your consent on the matter.

 

 

Stick to the topic at hand too... your opinions of my opinions are meaningless.

 

You're the one who introduced this into the topic and I am just working off your incorrect view of Special Revelation.

 

 

Well, you swung and you missed... 3 times even, so you're out!

Now move on... I continue praying for you.

[Guest shiloh357]

Well, you swung and you missed... 3 times even, so you're out!

Now move on... I continue praying for you.

 

That you don't like what I said or don't agree with it doesn't mean that I have swung and missed  Responses like that simply indicate that you don't have any facts to show me where I am wrong.  

 

I am not moved by any condescending, faux spirituality toward me on your part.

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members that cannot or have not followed these simple guidelines will be banned from the thread.

 

God Bless.

 

Nigel.

[Guest Judas Machabeus]

Bit off topic:

I came to this forum because I was invited by an alliance church minister to come to his service and learn the truth. I went so far as to have weekly meetings with him and long story short he conducted himself in a way I disapproved of.

So I found this forum and people here seem to hold to the believes he does so I thought I would seek "the truth" here.

What I found is a lot of "no your wrong" but no substance to back up why I was wrong. I had to resort to starting threads based on other discussions.

So if I could give some constructive criticism, instead of telling folks how wrong they are, why don't you share the truth as you see it. So far this forum has enforced my Faith and has validated my Faith journey as being on the right path. And has enforced that "the truth" does not lay with the evangelical way of believing.

Edited December 5, 2014 by Judas Machabeus