The_Patriot21 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What makes it credible? Excuse me if I don't take your say so. I've never even heard of it. Perhaps other sources with the same information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,132 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) If you look at a series of other countries, it appears that they think a serious war is on the way. Â china, russia and most of their allies have much less population drops than do we. Â The way we seem to be pushing Putin around It would not surprise me in the least. Â Then again, maybe it's just Islam taking over and we don't submit to Allah.. Edited November 16, 2014 by other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It's not forecasting a population of 69 million - it's forecasting a DROP of 69 million. That's how I read it anyway. Still, that's a lot of people. It also forecasts a big drop in your military budget too - and your GDP per capita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,132 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 Oak if you click on the little arrow beside the 69 it shows a -70 something percent change. It says we loose nearly three fourths of our population. I'd say it was a fluke if many of our allies were not lower also. I know of some book authors that use the data from this site for background information. I've seen it in bibliographies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,132 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 http://www.deagel.com.ipaddress.com/   IPAddress.com The Best IP Address Tools    My IP    IP Lookup    Whois    IP Tools    Email Tools    Speed Test    Articles My IP Address 108.222.86.244 is located in United States www.Deagel.com - Deagel Details When pulling the information for www.Deagel.com, we found that the organization tied to this IP is Fluid Hosting LLC. A more detailed IP address report for www.Deagel.com is below. At the time you pulled this report, the IP of www.Deagel.com is 204.14.91.26 and is located in the time zone of America/New_York. The context of www.Deagel.com is "Deagel" and could reflect the theme of the content available on the resource. More IP details of www.Deagel.com are shown below along with a map location. www.Deagel.com | Deagel IP Lookup (IP: 204.14.91.26) Hostname: www.deagel.com IP Address: 204.14.91.26 Host of this IP: win6.myhsphere.cc Organization: Fluid Hosting LLC ISP: Fluid Hosting LLC City: Norristown Country: United States State: Pennsylvania Postal Code: 19403 Timezone: America/New_York Local Time: 16.11.2014 08:49:26 20mi 50km Hostname: www.deagel.com Country: United States City: Norristown Latitude: 40.1545 Longitude: -75.3809 Reverse IP Lookup Result for www.Deagel.com | Deagel We found 1 hostname for IP Address 204.14.91.26 [ Lookup this IP ] 1 www.deagel.com [ Site Information ]   Whois Lookup Result for Deagel.com | Deagel Registrar TUCOWS, INC. Whois Server whois.tucows.com Referral URL http://domainhelp.opensrs.net Status ok Contact Email [email address hidden] Creation Date 08/30/2003 Updated Date 08/18/2013 Expiration Date 08/30/2016 Registrant Gas Deagel Gas Deagel 108, Gran via Roses, NA 17480 SP Telephone: 34972255221 Email: [email address hidden] Administrative Contact Gas Deagel Gas Deagel 108, Gran via Roses, NA 17480 SP Telephone: 34972255221 Email: [email address hidden] Technical Contact Fluid Hosting LLC Fluid Hosting LLC #255 2820 Audubon Village Dr. Audubon, PA 19403-2262 UN Telephone: 18606566191 Fax: 18606566191 Email: [email address hidden] Nameservers NS1.FLUIDHOSTING.COM NS2.FLUIDHOSTING.COM Sites related to Deagel.com | Deagel 1 globalsecurity.org Globalsecurity.org - Innovative Approaches To Emerging Security Challenges [site Information] Organic keywords for Deagel.com 1 crj 700 engine lease cost 2 patriot missile system ioc 3 pantsir s1 4 prices 5 a2c2s uh-60 6 76mm draco turret 7 when was patriot missile system ioc 8 deagel 9 48n6e2 10 pak da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,132 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 from the Degal web site.... There have been many questions about the countries forecast specially the one focusing on the United States of America (USA). They won't be answered one by one but below you can find some explanation, thoughts and reflections. We are going to keep this as short as possible. The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc. You can see the most relevant data at every single country's page. There is a tiny part of data coming from a variety of shadow sources such as Internet gurus, unsigned reports and others. But all these sources are from the internet and are of public domain for at least a minority. For example, several years ago Dagong, the Chinese ratings agency, published a report analyzing the physical economy of the States comparing it with those of China, Germany and Japan. The conclusion was that the US GDP was something between $5 to $10 trillion instead of $15 trillion as officially reported by the USG. We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs. We are sure that many people out there can find government statistics in their own countries that by their own personal experience are hard to believe or are so optimistic that may belong to a different country. Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast. The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result. The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink. Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones. Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God's word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future. Sunday, October 26th, 2014  http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsun Tsu Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/10/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 What makes it credible? Excuse me if I don't take your say so. I've never even heard of it. Perhaps other sources with the same information? Â Did you even look at the site and go through it? It is a military industrial aircraft, weaponry, and space technology site... sheesh, OF COURSE it's EXTREMELY credible... its what our US gov, terrorists and etc. might look at to stay on top of weaponry advances and news and etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsun Tsu Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/10/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 If you look at a series of other countries, it appears that they think a serious war is on the way.  china, russia and most of their allies have much less population drops than do we.  The way we seem to be pushing Putin around It would not surprise me in the least.  Then again, maybe it's just Islam taking over and we don't submit to Allah..   I agree there are several possibilities here, and I actually fear speculating. I think however youre touching on some of the top major possibilities. Ebola, and other communicable diseases, war, a combination? I personally think we have stepped on enough toes and we were even caught spying on allies we had already angered. We are quickly finding ourselves alone with most of the entire world fast becoming our enemy.  No matter the speculation, a 3/4th drop in population projected for the next 11 years is SOBERING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Â For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Â And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:21-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 Perhaps the writers are considering the rapture will happen by then? If so, I believe their numbers will be off.Just a thought ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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