Hall7 Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Please note that these were the words of the messenger, who had absolutely no idea about what was taking place in the heavenlies (that God had given Satan limited permission to destroy Job). We need not speculate about the nature of this fire, since we read in Scripture of supernatural fire coming down from heaven many times. This was definitely not a natural phenomenon, but a Satanic counterfeit of God's fire from heaven (the atmospheric heaven). That Satan can make this happen is clear from Rev 13:13: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men...". Thank you for the scriptures. It makes me wonder why we don't see that anymore, fire coming down from the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,254 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,984 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Please note that these were the words of the messenger, who had absolutely no idea about what was taking place in the heavenlies (that God had given Satan limited permission to destroy Job). We need not speculate about the nature of this fire, since we read in Scripture of supernatural fire coming down from heaven many times. This was definitely not a natural phenomenon, but a Satanic counterfeit of God's fire from heaven (the atmospheric heaven). That Satan can make this happen is clear from Rev 13:13: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men...". Thank you for the scriptures. It makes me wonder why we don't see that anymore, fire coming down from the sky. Not to sound tacky, but if we saw it very much it would not be a wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Please note that these were the words of the messenger, who had absolutely no idea about what was taking place in the heavenlies (that God had given Satan limited permission to destroy Job). We need not speculate about the nature of this fire, since we read in Scripture of supernatural fire coming down from heaven many times. This was definitely not a natural phenomenon, but a Satanic counterfeit of God's fire from heaven (the atmospheric heaven). That Satan can make this happen is clear from Rev 13:13: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men...". Thank you for the scriptures. It makes me wonder why we don't see that anymore, fire coming down from the sky. Not to sound tacky, but if we saw it very much it would not be a wonder... I'd think we'd hear it on the news if something like that happened now adays. Come to think of it there were some unexplained cases of self combustion where they found a person completely consumed by fire without anything else around them burned up. Never heard of an unexplained case of a "group" of people consumed by fire yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Please note that these were the words of the messenger, who had absolutely no idea about what was taking place in the heavenlies (that God had given Satan limited permission to destroy Job). We need not speculate about the nature of this fire, since we read in Scripture of supernatural fire coming down from heaven many times. This was definitely not a natural phenomenon, but a Satanic counterfeit of God's fire from heaven (the atmospheric heaven). That Satan can make this happen is clear from Rev 13:13: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men...". Thank you for the scriptures. It makes me wonder why we don't see that anymore, fire coming down from the sky. Because we are in "the Age of Grace", and during this time God is withholding His judgements. When the "sons of thunder" wanted to call down fire from Heaven while Christ was on earth, they were rebuked. But during the Tribulation, when the Antichrist controls the earth, Elijah will once again call down fire from Heaven (Rev 11:5), and the Lord Himself will rain fire from Heaven at His coming to judge the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Please note that these were the words of the messenger, who had absolutely no idea about what was taking place in the heavenlies (that God had given Satan limited permission to destroy Job). We need not speculate about the nature of this fire, since we read in Scripture of supernatural fire coming down from heaven many times. This was definitely not a natural phenomenon, but a Satanic counterfeit of God's fire from heaven (the atmospheric heaven). That Satan can make this happen is clear from Rev 13:13: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men...". Thank you for the scriptures. It makes me wonder why we don't see that anymore, fire coming down from the sky. Because we are in "the Age of Grace", and during this time God is withholding His judgements. When the "sons of thunder" wanted to call down fire from Heaven while Christ was on earth, they were rebuked. But during the Tribulation, when the Antichrist controls the earth, Elijah will once again call down fire from Heaven (Rev 11:5), and the Lord Himself will rain fire from Heaven at His coming to judge the earth. That's interesting and didn't know that. Can you post scriptures about the age of grace and the sons of thunder please, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 That's interesting and didn't know that. Can you post scriptures about the age of grace and the sons of thunder please, thank you. "Age of Grace" is a dispensational term based upon Jn 1:17, and the fact that "ages" are periods of time or dispensations in Scripture (Eph 1:10; 3:2,5). See details below: The sixth dispensation, the one in which we now live, is the Dispensation of Grace. It began with the New Covenant in Christ’s blood (Luke 22:20). This “Age of Grace” or “Church Age” occurs between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9:24. It starts with the death of Christ and ends with the Rapture of the church (1 Thessalonians 4). Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-dispensations.html#ixzz3RkgaEcQm "Sons of Thunder" was the nickname given to James and John, the sons of Zebedee, because they were zealous about bringing down judgements on the enemies (or perceived enemies) of Christ (Mk 3:17; Lk 9:54-56). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted February 15, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2015 Revelation 13:13. If calling fire down from heaven is a sign then it sounds like someone else is going to do it on a global scale. So whose fire from heaven are we going to go by? It sounds like the world is going to be deceived by miracles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted February 15, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 That's interesting and didn't know that. Can you post scriptures about the age of grace and the sons of thunder please, thank you. "Age of Grace" is a dispensational term based upon Jn 1:17, and the fact that "ages" are periods of time or dispensations in Scripture (Eph 1:10; 3:2,5). See details below: The sixth dispensation, the one in which we now live, is the Dispensation of Grace. It began with the New Covenant in Christ’s blood (Luke 22:20). This “Age of Grace” or “Church Age” occurs between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9:24. It starts with the death of Christ and ends with the Rapture of the church (1 Thessalonians 4). Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-dispensations.html#ixzz3RkgaEcQm "Sons of Thunder" was the nickname given to James and John, the sons of Zebedee, because they were zealous about bringing down judgements on the enemies (or perceived enemies) of Christ (Mk 3:17; Lk 9:54-56). Luke 9:54 - When the disciples James and John saw this they said Lord do you want us to call down fire from heaven to consume them? I'm not sure I understand this verse, did James and John have the authority to call down fire from heaven at times or is it just a saying meaning calling upon the wrath of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 15, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2015 Revelation 13:13. If calling fire down from heaven is a sign then it sounds like someone else is going to do it on a global scale. So whose fire from heaven are we going to go by? It sounds like the world is going to be deceived by miracles. That's absolutely correct (2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 13:12-15). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 15, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2015 "Sons of Thunder" was the nickname given to James and John, the sons of Zebedee, because they were zealous about bringing down judgements on the enemies (or perceived enemies) of Christ (Mk 3:17; Lk 9:54-56). Luke 9:54 - When the disciples James and John saw this they said Lord do you want us to call down fire from heaven to consume them? I'm not sure I understand this verse, did James and John have the authority to call down fire from heaven at times or is it just a saying meaning calling upon the wrath of God? No. James and John did not have the authority to call down fire from heaven, nor was this a time of judgment (Lk 9:56). They simply assumed that because those Samaritans would not welcome Christ, they should imitate Elijah, who brought judgment on those who preferred idolatry over the living God (2 Kgs 1:1-16). The Samaritans had a corrupted and idolatrous religion. But at the same time we see them sincerely believing on Christ abd being saved in the NT (Jn 4:39-44; Acts 8:5-17). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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