The fourth beast and another beast question

[Marilyn C]

Hi AFlameOfFire,

You are right that the 4 beasts of Dan.7 are the composite beast of Rev. 13. I think what is tricking you is the word `beast.` It is a descriptive word to show the `beastly, wicked,` character of what is being shown. You need to look at the context of the `beastly` people or power to gain more understanding. Thus Dan. 7`s beasts are about the rise of those powers, while Rev. 13 shows how they have come together. They come out of the `sea,` of people - the Political power. Notice however the person in Rev. 13: 11 - 18 is from the `earth` false religion, & is not crowned (political) but is like the executor of the government holding the economic & religious powers.

Marilyn.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

Hi AFlameOfFire,

You are right that the 4 beasts of Dan.7 are the composite beast of Rev. 13. I think what is tricking you is the word `beast.` It is a descriptive word to show the `beastly, wicked,` character of what is being shown. You need to look at the context of the `beastly` people or power to gain more understanding. Thus Dan. 7`s beasts are about the rise of those powers, while Rev. 13 shows how they have come together. They come out of the `sea,` of people - the Political power. Notice however the person in Rev. 13: 11 - 18 is from the `earth` false religion, & is not crowned (political) but is like the executor of the government holding the economic & religious powers.

Marilyn.

Thanks Marilyn, I didnt want to put any interpretation onto it just the acknowledgement of what was written and no one would just acknowledge the word John said without needing to run to it and change it for me, and I distrust that and I was just trying to see who wouldnt do that.

Because this was being discussed elsewhere also and it was being assumed (from silence) that I was making the beast after the fourth (I was acknowledging) out to be a kingdom, when I was not (that was assumed, the same with being tricked) I wasnt, I was simply acknowledging the beasts as they appeared, saying four beasts (and showing the verses as I was handling them) and John's showing another beast after that, and I was like, correct? correct?   I save the entire thread because it was a little funny to watch. This other person just wouldnt say John was correct, I guess you had to be there. Sometimes folks are so afraid you will get it wrong (or go the wrong way) they cant just acknowledge what is plain (at the most basic level) and then move forward. Like if someone just makes things worse the way they are trying to teach you something (and you dont want to tell them that) you just acknowledge how dumb you are and humbly ask them to hook  up an IV of breastmilk for you (and they cant even do that). Just let the basic be established and build from there (thats how I learn) works for me but oftentime (in this in particular) I know for myself the other might tend to give you more then what you are asking for and actually complicate things (while the other is trying to dazzle you with their short hand in scriptures. So I did sort of press the issue (there) I did just to see how many times it would be avoided (and it was too many to count) but it got so utterly ridiculous I ended up opening up a thread here just to see how you guys would answer  (in just a very simple thing). 

Which was actually much more helpful  its it simplicity (believe it or not) than the other

There was another reason for it also.

But it was really quite a show (on the other end of things) and I don typically do that, I was honestly asking ( for a kindergarden level thing) but I couldnt get it to save my life, and thats what baffles me.

I think I will like you though, you have a nice way of telling where you are coming from, although I am not going forward with this (in particular) I wanted you to know that.

God bless you, and thanks for your reply

 

 

Edited August 21, 2015 by AFlameOfFire

[Marilyn C]

Hi AFlameOfFire,

Thank you for the kind words & the explanation of what you were looking for. And yes we all like to rush to `help` & show our view & don`t often really read what some one is saying or even ask for more info. I have to slow myself down to attend to this quite often.

Blessings, sis, Marilyn.