love christ cant trust christians

[Guest fields316_2000]

I joined this new church and its the bomb. The pastor takes great interest in my issues and has told me he would like to mentor me into preaching / teaching within the church. he also has told his son in laws and associates alot about me and his plans. since then these guys have invited me places to eat and hang out, but i feel like its all for political reasons - to please the pastor.

I tested the waters and asked some pretty general questions that i knew the answers to, but wanted to see if they'd tell me the truth on. Of course they flattered me and told me what they thought I wanted to hear.

One invited me to dinner and told me he'd call me - but he 'forgot' to call me up but managed to call his other dinner guests.

One other one, he owns a autopart wherehouse and I call him up for advice or to see if he has a good trustworthy mechanic. He tells me he'll call his friend and he 'll call me in the morning. He never called so I call his office but - you guessed it - he is screening my calls. But in church they all smile at me but avoid talking with me at all cost. the pastor tells me openly that he's got my back and loves me like a son - these guys have been working in the church for 5 years and in business with him for equal amount of time so i dont know why they'd hate on me..so im thinking i should just NOT be involved with them at all..but im a direct person. should i directly call them on being fake and ask them why? what reasons do you think they are acting like that?

[O'Dannyboy]

Under these circumstances I would first pray for guidance. If then you are not given to any revalations I would ask each of them "why now are you so distant?".

Proverbs 3:3

[Guest fields316_2000]

thank you man. im going to keep my gaurd up with truth and see what god allows me to say when it's time. I m going to pray first..thanks again!

[Keith]

That was great advice, Danny. Can't do any better than that. Acting rashly and impulsively is rarely a good idea. Waiting for God's counsel and always remembering His presence with us when we speak/deal with others is the right way to handle any situation.

[Leonard]

You might also just ask the Pastor in terms like these: "It seems to me recently that these guys are sort of cold toward me? I could be reading it wrong, but do you know of anything I might have done to cause an offense to them? I think it is important that we work together well, and I'd like to know If I've done anything wrong."

[Guest Christian Counselor]

There is something definitely wrong with this picture.Obviously,important facts have been left out.The fact that you state that you don't trust Christians and the fact that you call a new church a "bomb" doesn't increase my confidence in your report.It looks like your minister is some kind of an angel and all your problems are with a couple other people in the church.If the problem is that simple,why mess around with them? Why bother to find out what there problem is?You're not going to church to meet people.You're going to worship God.The quality of the church members isn't important if the church is filled with the Holy Spirit and you like the quality of the minister.If you have a negitive response to either of those requirements,then its time to look for another church.But don't get bent out of shape by the people you meet at church.A good church attracts sinners who need spiritual healing so don't judge the quality of a church by its congregation and even more importantly DO NOT JUDGE JESUS BY HUMANS WHO CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS.Most Christians are not.

[Leonard]

Counselor: In some recent slang 'a bomb' is a GOOD THING. Sheesh! I'm dating myself by admitting I found that confusing too; my daughter had to tell me: "Oh dad; your so hopeless! 'Bomb' means really cool!!"

[nebula]

[Guest fields316_2000]

The pastor over at this church saved my married so to speak. he came with the word of god and had my wife saved and brought me back from backsliding. so i turned AWAY from my old friends that were in the 'world' . so with him he's excited about me really taking to god so well and wants me to teach at his church in a lil class or what not. in the mean time all his lil in laws and such have approached me to meet me due to him talking about me alot off line from church. I'm a Sgt in the army and have a chance to go on to re up and move out of state. he told me he was going to bring me into his contracting business and i should get out..which his inlaws / family are also involved in. so with them telling me one thing and doing another with dinner, working on my car and all how can i trust this man or his people with my future or familys stability? I want to do God's will not mans - but it s difficult when your spiritual leader is the one confusing you and his people are flakes. i've directly brought my issues to him and he tells me the same charming thing about me making 6 digits a year with him and everything is fine. but nothing is in writing and nothing is concrete. i want to serve god, but my problem all my walk with god has been fellowshiping, and this is the reason why. people try and force relationships on you due to being in church and ignore the world, but the people in church sometimes are sorrier than 'sinners'!

[Guest fields316_2000]

like i said before im military and i have simple stupid processes in which i make decisions.

SMALL things can show the true nature of BIG things.

doesnt the bible warn against flatterers and sweet talkers?

I tried to give the beniefit of the doubt the first time , however after that NO one spoke to me again. no one looks me in the eye anymore.

the second time the lil dinner was near my house but yet everyone else (my sister in law especially) was called , but for some reason my family wasnt..and i was the one helping them with the phone number list in the first place! so in the mean time i decided to keep to myself because i feel like im dealing with car sales men. in the mean time my wife is still holding on to the belief that i should go into business with them and get out of the army..but the army is concreate and feeds us..i cant go and count on a big situation like employment if i cant even have a meal as promised! what should i do?? I've asked my wife to talk to the pastor about his plans since he seems to be feeding me the same thing over again with no sign of proof..she is 'scared' to speak to him so im stuck.

maybe its just an attack from the devil so ill stop going to church again..