Sister Posted March 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,727 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 2,305 Days Won: 5 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2016 RevelationWriter Quote - "Your Holy Cities Are a Wilderness, Zion is a Wilderness Jerusalem a desolation." - Is.64:10 They have turned God's teachings into teachings of a harlot. Replaced her. Their Zion now is polluted. This is not God's Zion where the God fearing dwell. God is just giving examples here. There is no real woman, but it's all about the teachings. Quote - The Woman of Rev.12 is just kept from the serpent for only 3.5 years. The woman's 3.5 years starts before the beast's 3.5 to continue - Rev.13:5. Yes, but the only connection is 3.5yrs. The NT was protected for 3 1/2 yrs after Christ's death and resurrection. It's solid. After this, Satan goes after corrupting the Word and the teachings. Before the NT was written, Satan only knew the OT. He was dying to get his hands on the NT so he could corrupt it, but it was kept from him, preserved and copies sent out to the churches before he could mar it. The end times 3.5yrs is given into Babylon's hands, so there could be a connection I can now see, but not the same one as you see. I see the first 3.5 yrs the NT was preserved by the witnesses, will stand the test of time and be preserved also by the saints in the last 3.5yrs. The teachings handed down. Quote So the woman's safety time will be up before the beast's authority ends. - The 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel will be saved. But will be killed by the beast for not worshiping the Image. Are you sure about that? Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 Babel was the great gathering place of man against the wishes of God to spread out across the globe. If it (Babylon) is anything other than literal Babylon it is Globalism. IMHO wherever Globalism is prevalent to the point of being a capital city today, it could easily be moved to a rebuilt Babylon or Dubai or Rome or London or Beijing... I believe it will be on the plains of Shinar (Zechariah 5:5-11). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWriter Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 608 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 I find it interesting that Scripture clearly refers to a period of 3.5 years within three different writing phrases from the events of Rev.11 & Rev.13 for 'The Holy City', 'The Two Witnesses', 'The Woman', and 'The Beast'. * Of The Holy City the 3.5 yr is phrased as: "Forty Two Months" - Rev.11:2 * Of The Two Witnesses the 3.5 yrs is phrased as: - "one thousand two hundred and sixty days" - Rev.11:3 * Of The Woman the 3.5 yrs is phrased as: - "one thousand two hundred and sixty days. Rev.12:6 - "a time and times and half of times" - Rev.12:14 In which Daniel 7:25 - Dan.12:7 speak of "a time and times and a half of times" * Of the Beast the 3.5 yrs is phrased as: - "Forty Two Months" - Rev.13:5 - Anyone believing that the players of this scriptural time phrases has anything to with America or the catholic church knows nothing of God's scriptural prophecies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWriter Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 608 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 John being in heaven was told to go down to the angel standing on land and sea to take the little book from him. Then John was told to Rise and measure the temple of God. The temple of God John rose to measure was not on earth but in heaven. There will be no 3rd temple God said so. Speaking of The 2nd Temple God said, "The glory of this Latter Temple shall be greater than The Former, says The Lord Of Hosts." - Hag.2:9 Former and Latter is 2 Temples not 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWriter Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 608 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 31 minutes ago, RevelationWriter said: I find it interesting that Scripture clearly refers to a period of 3.5 years within three different writing phrases from the events of Rev.11 & Rev.13 for 'The Holy City', 'The Two Witnesses', 'The Woman', and 'The Beast'. * Of The Holy City the 3.5 yr is phrased as: "Forty Two Months" - Rev.11:2 * Of The Two Witnesses the 3.5 yrs is phrased as: - "one thousand two hundred and sixty days" - Rev.11:3 * Of The Woman the 3.5 yrs is phrased as: - "one thousand two hundred and sixty days. Rev.12:6 - "a time and times and half of times" - Rev.12:14 In which Daniel 7:25 - Dan.12:7 speak of "a time and times and a half of times" * Of the Beast the 3.5 yrs is phrased as: - "Forty Two Months" - Rev.13:5 - Anyone believing that the players of this scriptural time phrases has anything to with America or the catholic church knows nothing of God's scriptural prophecies. And 'The Holy City" by Rev.11:8 is called 'that great city which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt where our Lord was crucified" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWriter Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 608 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 - Although The Woman is nourished from the presence of The Serpent she is not nourished from the presence of The Beast whom the Serpent gives his power and authority to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,043 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 426 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 4 hours ago, RevelationWriter said: - Although The Woman is nourished from the presence of The Serpent she is not nourished from the presence of The Beast whom the Serpent gives his power and authority to. I believe you are greatly misunderstanding the verse; the woman wasn’t nourished from the serpent in any way shape or form. She was nourished by God who intervened on her behalf becuase the serpent was trying to kill her, not nourish her. Hence the rest of the verses – Revelation 12:14 - And to the woman were given [by God] two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished [by God] for a time, and times, and half a time, [AWAY] from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman [in an attempt to reach her], that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood [of false doctrines and lies]. 16 And [God caused] the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And [therefore] the dragon was wroth with the woman [because he couldn't kill her], and [so he] went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. You simply need to follow the grammar, “the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” Her place to where she flew was away from the serpent and so he couldn’t reach her, hence the attempt with the flood out of his mouth… which also couldn’t reach her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted March 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said: I believe you are greatly misunderstanding the verse; the woman wasn’t nourished from the serpent in any way shape or form. She was nourished by God who intervened on her behalf becuase the serpent was trying to kill her, not nourish her. Hence the rest of the verses – Revelation 12:14 - And to the woman were given [by God] two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished [by God] for a time, and times, and half a time, [AWAY] from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman [in an attempt to reach her], that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood [of false doctrines and lies]. 16 And [God caused] the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And [therefore] the dragon was wroth with the woman [because he couldn't kill her], and [so he] went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. You simply need to follow the grammar, “the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” Her place to where she flew was away from the serpent and so he couldn’t reach her, hence the attempt with the flood out of his mouth… which also couldn’t reach her. That's a very good, and Scriptural, interpretation, Seeker. A LOT of people get those passages wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWriter Posted March 10, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 608 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2016 Okay sorry I didn't string the wording out better. But the Beast will have access to The Woman although The Serpent doesn't. - Rev.13:2 - Rev.17:12-18 Which is the point of the post. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted March 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,043 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 426 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2016 44 minutes ago, RevelationWriter said: Okay sorry I didn't string the wording out better. But the Beast will have access to The Woman although The Serpent doesn't. - Rev.13:2 - Rev.17:12-18 Which is the point of the post. - Ok... So why then was it important for you to state "she is not nourished from the presence of The Beast..." if that was truly your point? And where were you headed with this since you deemed significant to share? However, I have to ask, and no offence intended. But are you sure you're not back-peddling here though? I mean Christian's are supposed to be truthful if the Spirit of Truth is really in them. For how can we really take God's word in our mouths if we ignore the fact we are to speak honestly and receive correction when wrong. We lose all authority as instructors of righteousness if we wilfully fabricate silly excuses when wrong. I would really hate to see pride compound a simple error and turn it into a sin here... because the next step is a fall for sure. I know how the adversary works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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