pre trib rapture is fake true or false

[ENOCH2010]

5 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

WHAT PreTrib doctrine?  I just read Scripture and I add nothing or take anything away.  I have formed my own opinion and am seldom swayed by anyone else.  The only people I have ever explained the Rapture to are my little grandchildren.  THEY understand it.

They think grandma knows what she is talking about. The same as a lot of people sitting in church, think the preacher knows what he is talking about. What matters is what the Bible says, and it doesn't say anything about a pre-trib rapture that can't be applied to second coming, where it belongs.

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

MG

Reread what I posted.  Their Post-Trib Rapture position will be unattainable.

Thanks

In Christ

Montana Marv

That's not how it reads, MM.  It sounds as though you're saying those who don't accept PreTrib will be left behind.  Am I just reading it wrong? 

 

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And to the Post-Trib Group in which none of these will ever reach the 2nd Coming to partake in their Rapture.  They all will have died from Beheading, Starvation, and Bodily shut downs from the lack of the Prescriptions which they cannot obtain.  Those with Heart, Lung, Kidney and other Organ diseases, along with RA, Cancer and other diseases which some are treatable with Medications are now in dire straights.

[Montana Marv]

14 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

That's all fine and dandy but the Bible says nothing about multiple first resurrections, it only says there is 1 and it happens at the second coming.

How can you know when the Rapture is when Scripture says that only God the Father knows when the Bridegroom will come for His Bride.  So I see you are adding to Scripture.  Putting yourself above the Word, Jesus Christ.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[MorningGlory]

17 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

They think grandma knows what she is talking about. T

Are you saying I don't? 

[ENOCH2010]

8 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

How can you know when the Rapture is when Scripture says that only God the Father knows when the Bridegroom will come for His Bride.  So I see you are adding to Scripture.  Putting yourself above the Word, Jesus Christ.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I don't know "when" the rapture happens, I only know what the Bible says. A real good guess would be at the first resurrection which the Bible says happens at the second coming.

[ENOCH2010]

6 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Are you saying I don't? 

that is debatable

[Montana Marv]

11 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

That's not how it reads, MM.  It sounds as though you're saying those who don't accept PreTrib will be left behind.  Am I just reading it wrong? 

 

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And to the Post-Trib Group in which none of these will ever reach the 2nd Coming to partake in their Rapture.  They all will have died from Beheading, Starvation, and Bodily shut downs from the lack of the Prescriptions which they cannot obtain.  Those with Heart, Lung, Kidney and other Organ diseases, along with RA, Cancer and other diseases which some are treatable with Medications are now in dire straights.

MG

They will go with us, but I want them to dwell on the fact that they will never make it to the 2nd Coming and the timing of their rapture.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Montana Marv]

5 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

I don't know "when" the rapture happens, I only know what the Bible says. A real good guess would be at the first resurrection which the Bible says happens at the second coming.

Enoch

Then why do you guess; you tie the two together.  My guess is that the Rapture will happen when no one knows and a time which no one can figure it out.  And that is Pre-Trib.  Once the 70th Week begins the prophetic clock begins to move and all timing from then on is easy to calculate.  And thus knowing becomes easy.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[ENOCH2010]

31 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Enoch

Then why do you guess; you tie the two together.  My guess is that the Rapture will happen when no one knows and a time which no one can figure it out.  And that is Pre-Trib.  Once the 70th Week begins the prophetic clock begins to move and all timing from then on is easy to calculate.  And thus knowing becomes easy.

In Christ

Montana Marv

no Marv you would need to know the exact day and hour of when to start your calculations, and that day and hour isn't knowable

[MorningGlory]

57 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

MG

They will go with us, but I want them to dwell on the fact that they will never make it to the 2nd Coming and the timing of their rapture.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Okay, I see what you mean now.  I just couldn't get that from your post but, no matter!  I agree.