angels4u Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted June 14, 2016 17 hours ago, OakWood said: Â Â Â Who,s the speaker Oak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, angels4u said: Who,s the speaker Oak? That is what I was wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, bopeep1909 said: Is my opinion more important than God's Word? That is sound Scripture. A Biblical Ministry. No it's not sound scripture. All they've done is produce a list of things with the rapture coming first. I could provide the same list and stick the rapture somewhere in the middle. It doesn't explain WHY the rapture comes first. There are many sounjd Biblical ministeries that give a post-Trib view. Why don't you start reading the Bible for yourself instead of just listening to what a ministry teaches you? there's nothing wrong with listening to the teachings of a ministry but you should always test their teachings against scripture, and I don't mean just looking up the verses to see if they are genuine - look for contradictions, look to see if the order they are presented in makes sense - that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, OakWood said: No it's not sound scripture. All they've done is produce a list of things with the rapture coming first. I could provide the same list and stick the rapture somewhere in the middle. It doesn't explain WHY the rapture comes first. There are many sounjd Biblical ministeries that give a post-Trib view. Why don't you start reading the Bible for yourself instead of just listening to what a ministry teaches you? there's nothing wrong with listening to the teachings of a ministry but you should always test their teachings against scripture, and I don't mean just looking up the verses to see if they are genuine - look for contradictions, look to see if the order they are presented in makes sense - that sort of thing. That is your choice. Your mind and your eyes have had a chance to digest the words. Life is full of choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 29 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said: No Oak it is the Word of God. 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-18 1 Corinthians 15: 50-54 No that's a just a description of the rapture, it doesn't say whether the rapture is pre-Trib or not and if you look at my other thread I've used those very same verses to argue for a post-Trib rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, OakWood said: No that's a just a description of the rapture, it doesn't say whether the rapture is pre-Trib or not and if you look at my other thread I've used those very same verses to argue for a post-Trib rapture. Ok,if that is how you see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, angels4u said: Who,s the speaker Oak? Carl Gallops - the video tells you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, OakWood said: Carl Gallops - the video tells you that. Do you mean Carl Gallups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said: Do you mean Carl Gallups? I don't know how to spell his name. Does it really matter who the speaker is. Why don't you think for yourself instead of worrying who the speaker is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, OakWood said: I don't know how to spell his name. Does it really matter who the speaker is. Why don't you think for yourself instead of worrying who the speaker is? It is important to know who we are listening to. We do not just take their word blindfolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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