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Amen, he is like Peter, he stepped out of the boat....here is the GOOD NEWS, from here on in you can't fail, you have done the necessary bit, it may get awful messy for a while, Peter had to shriek "Lord save, I perish" and he launched himself at Jesus.....but Jesus did save

We are not against ceasing from sin or good works, we believe in that......but first we get saved, in fact you cain't even get on to those things until first you get saved. And salvation is not ceasing from sin and good works it is repentance and faith.

As so many, many times the NIV is awful, it too often is a commentary rather than a translation...the KJV has it right but it means in a little while. Remember this warning is for kings and rulers.

Horrid absence of the Holy Ghost

I'm with Jesus, He was Post trib "after the tribulation of those days .......they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds" There are not multiple comings in the clouds this is parallel with 2. Thess.2 It comes not at the beginning of Antichist's career but the end for He will slay Antichrist with the breath of His mouth. ....it was Antichrist who caused the tribulation/persecution

Yes to believe that the church will be in a percieved state of perfection is amiss, nor will she be gathered on account of being perfect, indeed it is impossible for the most of the church has gone before and has gone in a state of imperfection yet we read that the DEAD in Christ will be first to rise. What will happen is that our perfection will be made manifest when the Lord appears for we ARE perfect in Christ, declared to be so by God.

Quite so, the tribulation is also called the time of Jacob's trouble. It is not called Jacob's trouble for any evil happening to Israel, it is the trouble coming upon the nations for the way they have treated the Jews. It is only once mentioned as Jacob's trouble and that is Jeremiah 30 7. Alas for that day is very great so that none is like it. It is even the time of Jacob's trouble but ....he shall be saved out of it. 10. Therefore fear thou not O My servant Jacob saith the Lord, neither be dismayed O Israel for lo I will save thee from afar and thy seed from the land of their captivity and Jacob shall return and shall be IN REST and none shall make him afraid.

Yes FEED the flock, stop beating them, you can't flog sheep, they will just collapse on you and lay down to die, you have to lead them gently, having a mind for the ewes and their newborn, the weak of the flock. Your doctrine cares not for the flock but tears them You present the flock with God as the adversary, you make HIM to be the roaring lion walking around seeking someone to devour.

Yes their punishment was death, PHYSICAL death, you interpret it as damnation...this is the same as the passages in Hebrews

Hi Yes that is quite right, therefore the rapture can only refer to the church for the Jews are going nowhere...we reign with Christ from heaven, they reign with Christ from Jerusalem. They are being gathered [and will be FULLY gathered] to their place in preparation and when Christ comes He will gather us to our place. But the logic also suggests that since we are still in the nations during the reign of Antichrist it is the CHURCH which goes through the tribulation not Israel who will have a pact with Antichrist while he is opposing everything called god...he will oppose YOU. A careful reading of Jeremiah. 30 and Daniel 12 fully bears this out It is the time of Jacob's trouble BUT ...he shall be saved out of it Look closely at Jeremiah for you know that every word in scripture is precise in it's usage These are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah For thus saith the Lord we have heard a voice of trembling, of fear and not of peace [BUT WHY? God is asking] Ask ye now and see whether a man doth travail with child? why then do I see every man with his hands on his loins as a woman in travail and all faces turned to paleness? See? It is the woman [the church] who travails not Israel, God's firstborn son. Therefore fear ye not o My servant Jacob saith the Lord, neither be dismayed o Israel for lo I will save thee from afar and thy seed from the land of their captivity. And Jacob shall return and shall be in rest and be quiet and none shall make him afraid. This is Israel's full restoration, it is born out in Daniel 12

What if a nation does not have a Jonah to preach to them? billions have never heard the gospel...just bad luck I suppose.

I'm talking about the MILLIONS being saved, their problems have to do with LIFE, the problems we have are the problems of being in the backwater.

I see the 7 year pact broken after 3.5 years the invasion, his sitting in the temple ....instant destruction by the coming of the Lord. So Antichrist's career is the same length of time as the Lord's ministry.

But some have indicated that a homosexual who is saved is a homosexual Christian...no such thing

Matt.24v3 His disciples asked the question and the answer was given to them...one of the signs given was "that this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, then shall the end come" Then in vs 15 the focus turns to Jerusalem because the final drama of Antichrist is played out there in the temple, the abomination of desolation There is safety for Christ's followers at that particular time anywhere in the world...but not in Jerusalem or Judea, they are told to flee. In Matt Jesus is speaking to Jewish disciples in Thess. Paul is speaking to Gentile disciples but the event is the same. There are not 2 comings in the clouds, with angels and trumps and gatherings of the elect.