missmuffet Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2016 How do we know that there is a God if we can't see Him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted August 8, 2016 We walk by faith not by sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said: We walk by faith not by sight. That is true but those who do not know God or are seeking God and have questions this is one of the biggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, missmuffet said: That is true but those who do not know God or are seeking God and have questions this is one of the biggest. Starting in Romans 1:20-21 That His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead so they will be without excuse, because although they knew God they did not glorify Him as God nor were thankful but became futile in their thoughts and their foolish hearts were darkened. Go on and read the rest of the chapter. So even if they have never heard of God they should see Him in everything around them. In other words as the word says, they will be without excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said: Starting in Romans 1:20-21 That His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead so they will be without excuse, because although they knew God they did not glorify Him as God nor were thankful but became futile in their thoughts and their foolish hearts were darkened. Go on and read the rest of the chapter. So even if they have never heard of God they should see Him in everything around them. In other words as the word says, they will be without excuse. Yes,seeing Him in everything around them is definitely one of the evidence of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2016 6 hours ago, missmuffet said: How do we know that there is a God if we can't see Him? The simple answer is you cant KNOW there is a God, only believe there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 7 hours ago, missmuffet said: How do we know that there is a God if we can't see Him? The one thing people need to avoid is claiming that they "know" or can "prove" that God exists. It sets up a level of expectation that no evidence can rise to. A better way of looking at it is that we can provide evidence for God's existence. We can demonstrate that our faith is evidentiary and not blind and that our faith is reasonable and rational. It is rational to believe in God. That doesn't "prove" that God exists empirically, but it does show that belief in God is not on the level of believing flying pigs or Santa Claus. It is important to make the distinction between what is invisible and what is imaginary. Having said that, there is a "knowing" that is not empirical, but is relational. I cannot prove I have a relationship with God, but I know within myself that to be true. I cannot prove it to anyone and would never claim to do so. But one evidence of God's existence is the lives he has transformed. I am not talking about behavioral modification, either. I am talking about a complete and utter inward transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,184 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,460 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted August 8, 2016 The desire of God through our senses is in fact the battle... we began in sin as sin and our senses were our god. We have placed all faith in that which passes away and have built from that point. When the reality of God 'IS' presented from His Word and we begin to understand that the issue of existence is not dependent upon the first created elements we are for the first time moved from total dependence of beginning sinful existence to other... As those who have come to Him in belief that has energized a new mind we build upon that which has not even come into experiential presence yet but by faith it is as good as it is already here! Sanctification is living totally upon His Word and forming thought, actions and direction upon that substance - all the while the world will call you a fool... all the while The Third Member of The Trinity 'The Holy Spirit' testifies of His presence within us by miracles, answered prayers, forming spiritual substance more profound and desired than the physical which passes away... 1 John 3:2-3 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. KJV 1 John 2:28-29 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. KJV Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted August 8, 2016 10 hours ago, missmuffet said: How do we know that there is a God.... if we can't see Him.... Because So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 19:17 He Tells Us But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:26 So Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Psalms 119:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 Look at the human body and how perfect and wonderfully made it is. Look at the human brain and how intricate it is. There has to be a intelligent designer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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