Why I'm a Libertarian

[Steff]

Political Libertarianism is the Devil's tool to make fence stradlers. Now if you want to speak of the "liberty we have in Christ", that is another story, but to associate scripture with Libertarianism goes against everything that is written in the Word of God.

You must read what they stand for, that is, their platform, and then compare what it says with what the scriptures say.

DE, if you wish to point out the error in my thinking scripturally I'd be happy to listen. However, I do believe you missed the crux of my post as Libertarians being fence sitters. We aren't and I even adressed this in my post.

Instead of saying that the Libertarian Party does not take positions on moral issues, it should affirm that virtue is only possible in a free society, that a free society best induces virtuous behavior, and that the candidates of the Libertarian Party will, if elected, promote virtue through non-coercive means.

Libertarians are the most principled people I know (The real Libertarians) and they will not go against their principles for the sake of political expediency. This is likely the reason they are still a small party.

I point to Ron Paul as the perfect example.

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings,

Here is an article on Libertarian's view of abortion:

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that libertarians can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe the government should be kept out of the question. We condemn state-funded abortions. It is particularly harsh to force someone who believes that abortion is murder to pay for another

[Steff]

They also believe in gay rights, and doing away with laws against so called harmless drugs such as marijuana.

Libertarians believe in INDIVIDUAL rights.

As for drugs, Libertarians don't want people to take drugs, they just realize the war on drugs is a failure and causes more problems than it fixes.

Libertarians are free-marketeers

The free market is innocent of the charges leveled at it by its Christian critics. Its alleged moral shortcomings turn out to be things which are common to mankind under both free and command economic systems. While it is true that the free market restrains human sin, it makes no pretense of purging people of their selfishness, materialism, individualism, and drive for power. And this, perhaps, is the true sin in the eyes of the market's critics.

The market is explicitly non-utopian. It doesn't promise to recreate man in a new and more perfect state, but rather it acknowledges the moral reality of man and works to restrain the outward manifestations of sin. In this sense the free market is in complete accord with Biblical teachings. According to Scripture, man cannot be morally changed through any human system, be it religious, political, or economic, but moral regeneration comes solely through the grace of God.

If the Christian critics of the market expect an economic or political system of laws to change the moral character of people, they are sadly mistaken. Such a task is clearly beyond the ability of any human institution or authority. We must be content to restrain the outward expression of sin, and this is something which the free market does admirably.

[dgolvach]

Its an individual right to murder a baby? Why is that a right? Seems to me that the parents had and made their choice. How about the individual right of the individual who is merely not fortunate enough to make it to this side of the birth canal and had no choice in the matter. Society or the State should not protect them? Im sorry but this position is hard to support regardless of what party supports it. There are a few things that are even more important that personal rights. One being the respect for life itself. If your liberty dosen't protect the most innocent of us all than it really isn't worthy much. Liberty just becomes a word that gets tosses around to form new political movements and get votes. Very shallow indeed!

[Steff]

Its an individual right to murder a baby? Why is that a right? Seems to me that the parents had and made their choice. How about the individual right of the individual who is merely not fortunate enough to make it to this side of the birth canal and had no choice in the matter. Society or the State should not protect them? Im sorry but this position is hard to support regardless of what party supports it. There are a few things that are even more important that personal rights. One being the respect for life itself. If your liberty dosen't protect the most innocent of us all than it really isn't worthy much. Liberty just becomes a word that gets tosses around to form new political movements and get votes. Very shallow indeed!

Hold on there don't pull out a straw man argument here, I never said anything about Abortion I specifically was talking about gay "rights" and marijuana use.

Regardless of how people try to spin it, the Libertarian party does not support abortion, rather the party would prefer that the issue be left in the courts and legislatures of the many states. Libertarians simply reject the idea that the federal government has any jurisdiction on this issue.

Many Libertarians believe abortion is wrong specifically because it violates the rights of the child. Right to life is the most basic right and the most important of all liberties.

[dgolvach]

Libertarians simply reject the idea that the federal government has any jurisdiction on this issue.

This is where the Libertarians are wrong. The Federal, Local, State and every other government should forbid this practice. God will judge governments who won't. He has complete jurisdiction. Why should he bless a government that does not attempt to stop this horrible thing? We have a responcibility at every level of government to stop this because its murder.

We know where the Dems are on this.

If the Republicans nominate a pro-death candidate in 08, look for President Hillary. I and many other conservatives I know will not support any pro-death candidate. This won't hurt the Dems but it will fracture the Republicans big time. 3 million yearly. Sacraficed to the God of convienence. 3 million 3,000,000 little children.

I believe you when you say you are against abortion, so knock some sence into your party's head and tell them to get on the right side of history and maybe the'll have better odds in the future.

Bush won on social issues. Maybe your guy can too.