HisFirst Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 3, 2016 And when did it return to one wife? As far as I know, Adam had one wife - Cain's descendant Lamech, had two - Gen 4 v 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 3, 2016 As far as God's plans for marriage, nothing has changed. God made one wife for Adam and said that a "man should leave his mother and father and cleave to his wife" - not wives. He said, "...the TWO shall become one." God said in Deuteronomy 17 that the kings of Israel should not have multiple wives because it will lead to his heart being turned away from God. Evidence there is Solomon having hundreds of wives and he in his later years becoming a idol worshiper with those who practice idolatry. And it tore the nation of Israel apart -never to be restored like it was. Jesus, when asked about divorce and marriage cited God's original plans "in the beginning" meaning that God's plans for a husband and wife has not changed. Not one instance in the Old Testament where a man had more than one wife was the account a pleasant one. In fact, every case that I have studied was disastrous. We can talk about those if you want. The Bible is such a raw and frank book - outlining EVERYONE's flaws and sins. It holds nothing back. Just because events were recorded doesn't mean that God approved of those events. Some say that God "winked" at polygamy because He wanted the world to be populated quickly. Well, if men having multiple wives was the way God wanted to have the world increase in number, then He would have given Adam, Noah, and Noah's sons MANY wives. Funny how he gave these men who literally were alone in the world only ONE wife each. Some say that God pretended not to notice polygamy because women in ancient days had to turn to sexual slavery (concubinism) or prostitution if they did not have a husband. I don't know. All I do know is polygamy in the Old Testament did not work without its multiple pains and heartaches and sinful actions accompanying it. God does not change. God's stance on marriage has never changed. People in the Bible abuse the gifts God gave to humanity - including marriage - with horrible, horrible results. Just because God didn't strike them all dead doesn't mean that He approved of their lifestyles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, HisFirst said: And when did it return to one wife? As far as I know, Adam had one wife - Cain's descendant Lamech, had two - Gen 4 v 19 Take a good look at lamech. He had two wives ... and he was a murderer. Seems like that shows that multiple wives isnt a good thing but rather the act of a man who was already set in sin. God set the pattern with adam and eve not adam and eve and jennifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundeddog Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,370 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 1,054 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/21/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/18/1868 Share Posted December 3, 2016 back then life was simpler and women where easier to understand so It was not hard for a man to have more than one wife (ducking under the table to avoid flying Hymnals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Yikes! I don't advocate it, I was just asking ?? Yes, Jesus told His disciples that in the beginning (reference to Eden and first man/woman) man leaves parents and joins as one with wife - a clear reference that it is male and female as well. I hadn't heard about the notion of populating the earth quickly - the long life spans of folk in the beginning easily answers that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, woundeddog said: back then life was simpler and women where easier to understand so It was not hard for a man to have more than one wife (ducking under the table to avoid flying Hymnals) LOL!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted December 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Thanks Jayne and AJ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 4, 2016 There is no Biblical prohibition against a man having multiple wives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 41 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: There is no Biblical prohibition against a man having multiple wives. Why would you go there tho? The whole situation just breeds favouritism, jealousy, distrust - just look at the situation with Rachel and Leah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Deidre* Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 521 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 608 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Jayne said: As far as God's plans for marriage, nothing has changed. God made one wife for Adam and said that a "man should leave his mother and father and cleave to his wife" - not wives. He said, "...the TWO shall become one." God said in Deuteronomy 17 that the kings of Israel should not have multiple wives because it will lead to his heart being turned away from God. Evidence there is Solomon having hundreds of wives and he in his later years becoming a idol worshiper with those who practice idolatry. And it tore the nation of Israel apart -never to be restored like it was. Jesus, when asked about divorce and marriage cited God's original plans "in the beginning" meaning that God's plans for a husband and wife has not changed. Not one instance in the Old Testament where a man had more than one wife was the account a pleasant one. In fact, every case that I have studied was disastrous. We can talk about those if you want. The Bible is such a raw and frank book - outlining EVERYONE's flaws and sins. It holds nothing back. Just because events were recorded doesn't mean that God approved of those events. Some say that God "winked" at polygamy because He wanted the world to be populated quickly. Well, if men having multiple wives was the way God wanted to have the world increase in number, then He would have given Adam, Noah, and Noah's sons MANY wives. Funny how he gave these men who literally were alone in the world only ONE wife each. Some say that God pretended not to notice polygamy because women in ancient days had to turn to sexual slavery (concubinism) or prostitution if they did not have a husband. I don't know. All I do know is polygamy in the Old Testament did not work without its multiple pains and heartaches and sinful actions accompanying it. God does not change. God's stance on marriage has never changed. People in the Bible abuse the gifts God gave to humanity - including marriage - with horrible, horrible results. Just because God didn't strike them all dead doesn't mean that He approved of their lifestyles. So well said! Especially the last few sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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