Guest Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Nope. The Rapture occurs prior to the beginning of the final Week of Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a Mirror Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 237 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/27/1974 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm not a stickler on dates, just trying to make sense of it all, but the reason we all look is because there are appointed times for everything. It just soo happens that the appointed time for Yeshua to return comes AFTER the Martyring of believers during Anti-christs rule. Soo, we await his happy face, (joke) to show up on scene. There are many viewpoints that are not worth arguing over, I will not argue over anything I type today, we can only look at world events and compare to biblical chronology. But we only know what we know, and we do not know much, only what is reported, which is corrupted and twisted. Heres a thought, we know that lucifer is the god of this world, he has power, he has authority, he tries to twist events to fit his timeline, soo that he may deceive many. Who manufactured this return to Israel, who controlled it, who financed it, who filtered the "return" of the Jews? Its not quite as easy as you might think to understand that entire situation, Wars were fought, millions of Non-jews perished, Central bankers pulled strings, Elites (Rothschild) manufactured the whole scheme, or at least were near the top of the pyramid. Who returned exactly? Israel or Judah? Judaism is legalism, legalism is not the current covenant, this is a tree that bears no fruit. You see details are important, family genealogies tell who is who, who is a priest and who is not. This Israel is unknown. If you think that because selected Jews were allowed to return that this constitutes THE return remember this, they are banished again. Remember their stint in the wilderness? on eagles wings? yes, they will be removed and THEN the remnant will be brought back, the remnant that will turn to Christ, what we see before us will be chopped down, because it bears no fruit. But as for us, we must make every conscious moment the most important moment to serve our Lord, Looking to the future is interesting, but for what? Soo we can do what with the information? What if we knew when we are? Then what? You see, we still must believe right now. Live now, serve now, love and care about right now. Prophecy is soo when you see signs, you recall the Words of our Lord, soo that we are not caught unaware. But we may want to keep our gaze closer, that we may not sin, instead of believing Knowledge of prophecy will grow our faith. God Bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a Mirror Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 237 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/27/1974 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said: To the op Briefly ........ No one knows when the Lord is going to break in .... this He has not revealed to anyone .... and no one will be able to figure out the dating The reason no one knows the day or the hour is found in the Jewish marriage process. You see the Son would go and build a house for His bride and Himself, and His Father would, after a time, come and inspect the home to see if it was a worthy dwelling. Nobody knew EXACTLY when the Father would come for the inspection, not even the Son. Therefore scripture states no one knows the day or the hour. Its not exactly the mystery everyone makes that verse out to be, but we will know the season, what will be going on in the world, there will be signs. But The exact day, we do not know. Bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 There is no connection with the Jewish marriage process The essence of the matter is the Lord's doing .... He has simply not revealed the dating which could be before this day is over .... or longer [2 Peter 3:8-9] [Matthew 25:13; Acts 1:6-7] There is one related sign .... Israel must be in the land to experience the 70th week decreed for the nation, the time of Jacob's trouble [Jeremiah 30] How long will the nation be there before, no one knows All of the signs related to the time of the end will be given during the coming tribulation and not before These signs are recorded in Revelation's unfolding as the tribulation begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 227 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/18/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, Just a Mirror said: The reason no one knows the day or the hour is found in the Jewish marriage process. You see the Son would go and build a house for His bride and Himself, and His Father would, after a time, come and inspect the home to see if it was a worthy dwelling. Nobody knew EXACTLY when the Father would come for the inspection, not even the Son. Therefore scripture states no one knows the day or the hour. Its not exactly the mystery everyone makes that verse out to be, but we will know the season, what will be going on in the world, there will be signs. But The exact day, we do not know. Bless you. If you don't mind me adding: Yeshua said we wouldn't know the day or the hour, he said nothing about months or years. Yom Teruah, (Feast of Trumpets) is the ONLY Feast day that begins the 1st day of a month. The new moon must be sighted before the 1st day of a new month can begin. The new moon can be one or two days long, when the moon is sighted by two witnesses a trumpet is blown to let the people know. No one ever knows the day or hour of Yom Teruah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) "when the moon is sighted by two witnesses a trumpet is blown to let the people know." Scriptures please? Edited January 6, 2017 by Daniel 11:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Zach said: Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 No mention of the Feast of Trumpets at all. In fact, no way to determine a precise date according to these Scriptures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keras Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,686 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 301 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1941 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Re the date for Jesus' Return, the Bible does give us all the time periods to enable us to fix the important stages in God's 7000 year Plan for mankind. Also Jesus said in Luke 13:32 about the 2 'days' He would work and then achieve His reward. Hosea 6:2 A 'day' to the Lord is 1000 years earth time. 2 Peter 3:8 Therefore from the commencement of His Ministry in 29/30 AD, He will Return in 2030. This date is right before the Millennium starts, for all that must happen from now until that glorious Day. The last 7 years start in 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 Your fixed time frames above are not accurate but only assumptions based upon open ended approximations Therefore, your predictive dating of 2023 is bogus and not scriptural No one can calculate the dating of the beginning of the time of the end just as the Lord has stated What can be calculated with precision is the dating of the Lord's visible return upon the earth at the ending of the tribulation period However, the dating of His intervention to begin the tribulation cannot be known Once the tribulation begins the count down will be exactly 1260 days + 1260 days +30 days .... and He will be seen in the open by the earth dwellers at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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