Christians Who Choose Not To Help

[Guest shiloh357]

Snow, I think you can see that the overwhelming majority of those who posted on this thread support what you did. As it turns out, the majority in this case, is correct. As maniac said, you don't owe anyone an explanation as to how you used the money you earned as you were led by the Lord.

I am thankful for Christians like you who love the Jewish people and who seek to bless them in a meaningful way. As you have been a blessing, so shall you be blessed.

[tillmother]

I agree with everybody else. I think what you did was a wonderful thing and I support you 100%.

[JimR-OCDS]

The problem with SOME here, is that you used the money to help a Jew. You helped a Jew go home, to a country that some here Like Jim, thinks is a racist, immoral country, or DE who thinks that it is not fulfillment of prophecies but is a product of worldly politics

I said nothing about her helping a Jewish person. I mentioned nothing about the charity itself.

Your accusation against me, is not only innaccurate, it's insulting!

[Guest shiloh357]

The problem with SOME here, is that you used the money to help a Jew. You helped a Jew go home, to a country that some here Like Jim, thinks is a racist, immoral country, or DE who thinks that it is not fulfillment of prophecies but is a product of worldly politics

I said nothing about her helping a Jewish person. I mentioned nothing about the charity itself.

Your accusation against me, is not only innaccurate, it's insulting!

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And given your baseless rants, in the past, about Israel being a racist and immoral nation, it is also highly accurate!!!!!

[JimR-OCDS]

And given your baseless rants, in the past, about Israel being a racist and immoral nation, it is also highly accurate!!!!!

Another lie!

I never said Israel is an immoral racist nation.

[JimR-OCDS]

I think, Jim, that you basically insulted yourself with the things you have said. I'm not judging; just basing my opinion on what I've seen.

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Show me where I have said that Israel is a racist immoral nation.

Show me where I said that giving a donation to help a Jewish person, was wrong.

Put up!

[Guest shiloh357]

Show me where I have said that Israel is a racist immoral nation.

Show me where I said that giving a donation to help a Jewish person, was wrong.

Put up!

Remember your rants about Israel last Summer? Remember how you tried to paint Israel as a murderous regime by your faulty, lame recollection of Deir Yassin, and how basically Israel senselessly massacred Palestinians, through them out of their homes, and is basically responsible for all the woes the Palestinians face? You also rely on the misinformation and outright lies of a false "scholar" like Norm Finklestein who also portrays Israel in the same manner you did this last summer. I remember folks like you and I mark them well. You may not have used the words "racist" and "immoral" outright, but your posts spoke loud and clear where you stand.

The fact you found fault with a woman chose to bless a Jew who was returning to Israel with money she EARNED, combined with your past unjust claims against Jews who fought to defend themselves against Arab attempts to annihilate them, pretty much tells me all I need to know. Like I said, had this charity taken another form, this thread would not have gone as far as it has.

[JimR-OCDS]

Show me where I have said that Israel is a racist immoral nation.

Show me where I said that giving a donation to help a Jewish person, was wrong.

Put up!

Remember your rants about Israel last Summer? Remember how you tried to paint Israel as a murderous regime by your faulty, lame recollection of Deir Yassin, and how basically Israel senselessly massacred Palestinians, through them out of their homes, and is basically responsible for all the woes the Palestinians face? You also rely on the misinformation and outright lies of a false "scholar" like Norm Finklestein who also portrays Israel in the same manner you did this last summer. I remember folks like you and I mark them well. You may not have used the words "racist" and "immoral" outright, but your posts spoke loud and clear where you stand.

The fact you found fault with a woman chose to bless a Jew who was returning to Israel with money she EARNED, combined with your past unjust claims against Jews who fought to defend themselves against Arab attempts to annihilate them, pretty much tells me all I need to know. Like I said, had this charity taken another form, this thread would not have gone as far as it has.

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The above are your words, not mine.

I wrote about injustices towards Palestinians, by the state of Israel, which I backed with documentation, published by a well renowned scholar on the subject, Norm Finkelstein.

I have also acknowledged that terrorist acts by Palestinians are also wrong and that Israeli's have a right to defend themselves.

How you link that into this thread, accusing me of being opposed to helping a person, because that person is Jewish, is absurd!

I have helped Jewish people and I have a love for Jewish people. Norm Finkelstein whom I admire, is a Jewish person.

You obviously have a hatred towards me, which I can not help.

Hate is the path you have chosen, to take here, not me.

[Guest shiloh357]

Show me where I have said that Israel is a racist immoral nation.

Show me where I said that giving a donation to help a Jewish person, was wrong.

Put up!

Remember your rants about Israel last Summer? Remember how you tried to paint Israel as a murderous regime by your faulty, lame recollection of Deir Yassin, and how basically Israel senselessly massacred Palestinians, through them out of their homes, and is basically responsible for all the woes the Palestinians face? You also rely on the misinformation and outright lies of a false "scholar" like Norm Finklestein who also portrays Israel in the same manner you did this last summer. I remember folks like you and I mark them well. You may not have used the words "racist" and "immoral" outright, but your posts spoke loud and clear where you stand.

The fact you found fault with a woman chose to bless a Jew who was returning to Israel with money she EARNED, combined with your past unjust claims against Jews who fought to defend themselves against Arab attempts to annihilate them, pretty much tells me all I need to know. Like I said, had this charity taken another form, this thread would not have gone as far as it has.

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The above are your words, not mine.

I wrote about injustices towards Palestinians, by the state of Israel, which I backed with documentation, published by a well renowned scholar on the subject, Norm Finkelstein.

I have also acknowledged that terrorist acts by Palestinians are also wrong and that Israeli's have a right to defend themselves.

How you link that into this thread, accusing me of being opposed to helping a person, because that person is Jewish, is absurd!

I have helped Jewish people and I have a love for Jewish people. Norm Finkelstein whom I admire, is a Jewish person.

You obviously have a hatred towards me, which I can not help.

Hate is the path you have chosen, to take here, not me.

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Norm Finklestein is hardly a person to be admired. He twists and contorts the facts, and I refuted his claims on that thread. I refuted him with the very testimony of the Arabs themselves. The documentation you posted was incorrect and totally misleading. If you recall I corrected several facts and filled in a lot of gaps that you rather conveniently left out. All that you ignored, and continued to malign Israel with nothing short of pure fiction.

You acknowledge the wrongs the Palestinians have committed in the same left-handed way that most anti-Israel people do. They will (relunctantly) admit that Palestinian terrorism is wrong, but then go on to accuse Israel of being the reason for that terrorism, and then (as you did) in the face of overwhelming history and facts to the contrary, proceed to regurgitate false, misleading information from windbags like Finklestein and other Israel haters to support their assertions. Your lopsided treatment the Arab war against Israel's existance in the past pretty much colored (in my eyes) the real reason you were opposed to someone helping a Jewish person go to Israel. Why would you support blessing a country you have so much disdain for, as evidenced in the former thread on Zionism?

I have no hatred for you, just calling it like I see it.

[JimR-OCDS]

Norm Finklestein is hardly a person to be admired. He twists and contorts the facts, and I refuted his claims on that thread. I refuted him with the very testimony of the Arabs themselves. The documentation you posted was incorrect and totally misleading. If you recall I corrected several facts and filled in a lot of gaps that you rather conveniently left out.

You didn't correct anything, but merely spewed opinions based on the same information that has been put out over the past 50 years, which Norm Finkelstien has proven to be bogus.

Much of the misinformation which has become common opinion, concerning the Palestinian expulsion from Israel, came from the Zionist Jewish historian, Benny Morris, and from Joan Peter's book, "From Time Immemorial" which Finkelstein, has proven to be bogus and fabricated information. Historians agree with Finkelstein and even Morris has admitted that what he has written, was not all accurate, but was used to serve the purpose of creating a Zionist state of Israel.

As I have said before, the Israel's have a right to exist and to defend themselves against acts of terrorism committed by Palestinian extremist. However, Israel also has to be accountable for their unjust acts towards Palestinians. Blindly supporting the Israeli government, while they perpetrate injustice on Palestinians, goes against the principles of the Gospel.

The bottom line here is, what all this has to do with what I said in this thread, shows your obvious hatred towards anyone who doesn't blindly support Israel's policies towards the Palestinians, 100%.