The movie "The Shack"

[LadyKay]

17 minutes ago, Saktmodig said:

Seriously, do you all think that God has a sex? 

Well since you ask I see God as male because the Bible is always calling him Father. Jesus called him Father. If he was female I think Jesus would call him mother.  I really have not come across anything in the Bible that would lead me to think that God is female.  

[Kindle]

35 minutes ago, Saktmodig said:

 

Nobody said that but you

Edited March 13, 2017 by OneLight
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[Guest]

3 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Well since you ask I see God as male because the Bible is always calling him Father. Jesus called him Father. If he was female I think Jesus would call him mother.  I really have not come across anything in the Bible that would lead me to think that God is female.  

But why would God have a sex at all? I am not saying he is female, but being the only one of his kind, why would he have a sex? 

Also, if God would be male, how could both man and woman be created in the image of God? Then it would just be the man, no? 

[HAZARD]

16 minutes ago, Saktmodig said:

But why would God have a sex at all? I am not saying he is female, but being the only one of his kind, why would he have a sex? 

Also, if God would be male, how could both man and woman be created in the image of God? Then it would just be the man, no? 

There is no mention of sex in the Bible regarding God. Here is what is written in His Word regarding His body.  

We are exact replicas of God only mortal. God said, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (Gen. 1:26).

I believe what I read in God's Word, and it teaches us that God has a body with bodily parts, hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, hair, that He speaks, listenes, has a heart, eats food etc. I have listed many Scriptures which shows this and many more can be found. Many catholics I have spoken with regarding these Scriptures do not believe them because it is contrary to their belief that God can be reduced to a sliver of bread and held in a monstrance or tabernacle.

God has a spirit body with bodily parts like a man. This is proved by hundreds of Scriptures that do not need interpretation. God is a Spirit being, infinate, eternal, immutable, self-existent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, invisible, impartial, immortal, absolutely holy, full of wisdom, full of knowledge, and just in all things. God is known in Scripture by over two hundred names. He is describes as being like any other person as to having a body, soul, and spirit (Job 13:8; Heb. 1:3; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-7). He is a spirit being with a body (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6, 9-19, Exodus 24:11; Gen. 18' 32:24-32; Ezek. 1:26-28; Acts 7:54-59; Rev. 4:2-4; 5:1, 5-7; 22:4-5); shape (John 5:37); form (Phil. 2:5-7, same Greek word as in Mark 16:12, which refers to bodily form); and an image and likeness of a man (Gen. 1:26; 9:6; Ezek. 1:26-28; 1 Cor. 11:7; jas. 3:9; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6).

He has a heart (Gen. 6:6; 8:21); hands and fingers (Exod. 31:18; Psalms 8:3-6; Rev. 5:1, 6-7); Nostrils (Ps. 18:8); mouth (Num. 12:8); lips and tongue (Isa. 30:27; feet (Ezek. 1:27; Exodus 24:10); eyes, eyelids, sight (Ps. 11:4; 18:24; 33:18); voice (Ps. 29; Rev. 10:3-4; Gen. 1); breath (Gen. 2:70; ears (Ps. 18:6); head, hair, face, arms (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-19; Rev. 5:1; loins (Ezek. 1:26:28; 8:1-4); bodily presence (Gen. 3:8; 18:1-22; Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7; Exodus 24:10-11); and many other bodily parts as required by Him to be a person with a body.

God goes from place to place just like any one else (Gen. 3:8; 11:5; 18:1-22, 33; 19:24; 32:24-32; 35:13; Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:13). God is omnipresent but not omni body, that is His presence can be felt everywhere but His body is not everywhere. God wears cloths (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-19; God eats food (Gen. 18:1-22; Exodus 24:11).

There is not one Scripture in the Bible which states that God is intangible, immaterial, without a body, or bodily parts, and passions except John 4:24, "God is a spirit," and this certainly does not teach that He is without a body.

Paul speaks of the human flesh and bone bodies in the resurrection as being "Spiritual" (1 Cor. 15:42-44), like unto Christs glorious body (Luke 24:39; Phil. 3:20-21); so if human bodies that become spiritualized are still material and tangible, then certainly God and other spirits have bodies just as real and still be spirit beings. John 4:24 is a statement of fact that God is a Spirit, but it does not define or analyze a spirit.

Turn to Genesis, chapter one. God had been busy for a number of days during that re-creation week, making various CREATURES of the land, sea, and air. Nothing is said about them having the form of God Himself. After all those creatures were created notice what God says in verses 26,27, "....Let us MAKE MAN in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS.. ..So God created MAN in His OWN IMAGE, in the IMAGE OF GOD created he him; male and female...."

Right at the very beginning of the Bible, the Eternal God tells us that He created mankind in, not the likeness or image of the angels or any other spirit being, but He formed and gave mankind the IMAGE or LIKENESS of HIMSELF. God took the dirt of the ground and molded the shape and form of man from it to resemble the image or shape of very GOD.

God first revealed Himself in a mighty way to Moses from the burning bush. From that time on the Eternal and Moses were friends with a "buddy-buddy" relationship. This relationship between the Lord and Moses was so personal that it is recorded, "And the Lord spoke unto Moses FACE to FACE, as a man speaks unto a friend...."(Ex.33:11). Now our "no body" for God teachers will say either this is just a metaphor or God appeared as a human, but when in the "spirit" He has no body or face. Of course that is the answer they will give to any section of scripture where God appeared to men. But there was a time when God appeared to Moses IN THE SPIRIT FORM - the Lord opening up his eyes to see Himself in the spirit dimension, that the human eye can nusually see, Read the example of the servant of Elisha in 2 Kings 6.

So close a relationship did Moses have with God that Moses was so bold as to ask the Lord to show Himself to him, not as a human but as He really IS. Moses' request is found in Exodus 33:18. Notice the reply from the Eternal: "....You can not SEE MY FACE; for no man can see me and
live."(verse 20). God did not say to Moses that He did not have a body and so did not have a face and so could not show Himself in the spirit form as having a shape. To the CONTRARY, the answer to Moses SHOWS CLEARLY GOD DOES HAVE A FACE AND BODY! He told Moses that no man could look upon the face of God in spirit form and live. How simpler can the word of God be in this matter? No theological degree needed to understand this verse, just believe it for what it says. In Exodus 33 18, Moses asked God to show him His Glory. "And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory." And God said to Moses; "I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; etc. God also said to Moses, "Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." Exodus 33:18-20.

Moses asked to see God's glory as expressed in His face or countenance, not to see His face apart from His glory. That Moses could have seen God's literal face is clearly stated in verse 11, where it says, "And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face as a man speaketh unto his friend, and that he had seen Gods glory in a limited sense is clear from Exodus 16:10; and 24:17; so the request was for something he had not uet seen. Many others have also seen Gods face and spirit body apart from the glory of God.

Regarding the impossibility of man beholding the face of God when He "dwells in a light whom no man has seen nor can see" (1 Tim. 6:16, Moses became an example of this himself when his face could not be looked upon by the people, Israel, because of its brightness (Exodus 34:29-35; and 2 Cor. 3:6-18). God showed Moses His glory as expressed in His back parts, or the glorious after effects and glimpse of the glory after it had passed by (Verse 20-23). God gave Moses a further revelation of His character and infinate nature in, (Verse 19). The Hebrew word for goodness is "tuwb," superlative good; the best of a person; and absolute beauty. This referes to the infinate beauty or glory of God which was to pass before Moses while he was hidden in the cleft of the rock (Verse 22).

Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE and lived! "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved" (Gen. 32:30). Abraham made a dinner for God and two angels and they ate food (Gen. 18). Moses talked with God face to face (Exodus 33:11-23). Seventy four elders had a banquet with God in Sinai (Exodus 24:9-11). Joshua and all Israel saw God with a sword in His hand (Josh. 5:13-15).

Gidion (Judg. 6:11-23), Manoah and wife (Judg. 13:3-23), David (1 Chron. 21:16-17), Job (42:5), Isaiah (6:1-13), Amos (9:1), and others saw God standing on the ground, sitting on thrones, and having a body with bodily parts like a man. Ezekiel saw God on a chariot and described Him as having an "appearance of a man" with loins and the upper and lower parts of a body like a man (Ezek 1:26-28; 10:1, 20; 40:3). Daniel saw both God the Father and the Son of man as two separate beiongs at the same time and at the same place. God was on a throne, and had on white cloths, and His hair was white. The Son of man also had a body, had cloths on, and had hair on His head (Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6). Stephen saw bith God and Christ at the same time and place with the same eyes (Acts 7:56-59).

[The_Patriot21]

I read the book, and from reading the book, im going to say no, im not going to watch the movie. the book made some good points about Gods love and forgiveness, but it was buried amongst all the heresy and false doctrine. If it stopped at portraying God as a woman, I wouldnt have such an problem with it-i would just accept it as being symbolic, kinda of like the lion from Narnia. 

However, it doesnt stop there, it goes on to downplay sin, as well as Christs sacrifice, and brings in universal salvation, regardless of repentence, and a ton of new age garbage. No, I will not be wasting any of my money on a movie that is so full of heresy to be unbelieveable.

[LadyKay]

Just now, Saktmodig said:

But why would God have a sex at all? I am not saying he is female, but being the only one of his kind, why would he have a sex? 

Also, if God would be male, how could both man and woman be created in the image of God? Then it would just be the man, no? 

I just gave you my answer as to why I think God is male. At this point in time I am not knowledgeable to go any deeper then what I said.  It is kind of like trying to prove that there is a God.  You either believe or you don't. If I can find the time I will do some research and see if I can get back to you with an answer to your question. That is IF I can find the time. I have so much to do lately it seems. 

[The_Patriot21]

[OneLight]

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[missmuffet]

14 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I just gave you my answer as to why I think God is male. At this point in time I am not knowledgeable to go any deeper then what I said.  It is kind of like trying to prove that there is a God.  You either believe or you don't. If I can find the time I will do some research and see if I can get back to you with an answer to your question. That is IF I can find the time. I have so much to do lately it seems. 

Will you see the movie?

[missmuffet]

I will not go see the movie. First of all I do not go to movies. Second of all I read a few chapters of the book and I thought that the author butchered Scripture and theology. I got this overwhelming feeling to "put down the book".