53 Percent Favor Military Action to Stop North Korea Nukes Program

[Guest shiloh357]

 

It will take military force to stop North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, a majority of voters believe -- and they tend to favor the U.S. taking that action.

That’s according to the latest national Fox News Poll of registered voters.

Fifty-one percent say that U.S. military action will be required to keep the rouge nation from continuing its nuclear weapons program, while 36 percent think diplomacy alone can stop it.

By a 53-39 percent margin, voters favor the U.S. using military force to keep North Korea from making further advancements on nukes. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/27/fox-news-poll-53-percent-favor-military-action-to-stop-north-korea-nukes-program

[Running Gator]

I wonder how many of those 53% will be in harm's way when we attack?   Darn easy to support an attack from behind and computer all safe and sound.

I wonder how many South Koreans favor such an action

[SavedByGrace1980]

14 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

 

It will take military force to stop North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, a majority of voters believe -- and they tend to favor the U.S. taking that action.

That’s according to the latest national Fox News Poll of registered voters.

Fifty-one percent say that U.S. military action will be required to keep the rouge nation from continuing its nuclear weapons program, while 36 percent think diplomacy alone can stop it.

By a 53-39 percent margin, voters favor the U.S. using military force to keep North Korea from making further advancements on nukes. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/27/fox-news-poll-53-percent-favor-military-action-to-stop-north-korea-nukes-program

I'm sorry, but polls like this are meaningless.

That 53 percent in favor cited in the poll know nothing more about the situation than you or I do.  All they (we) know is what the media tells us.  We don't know what Trump and the Chinese leader talked about.

We have no access to confidential information.  We don't know what we are doing behind the scenes.  We don't know what the Chinese are doing behind the scenes.

I still say the Chinese are going to keep the N Korean dictator on a short leash.  It is certainly not in their interest to let him attack China's biggest consumer of their goods (us).

In the old days, war talk sold newspapers - today, it creates viewership and generates clicks.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose (the more things change, the more they stay the same)

Blessings,

-Ed

[Guest shiloh357]

5 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1981 said:

I'm sorry, but polls like this are meaningless.

That 53 percent in favor cited in the poll know nothing more about the situation than you or I do.  All they (we) know is what the media tells us.  We don't know what Trump and the Chinese leader talked about.

We have no access to confidential information.  We don't know what we are doing behind the scenes.  We don't know what the Chinese are doing behind the scenes.

I still say the Chinese are going to keep the N Korean dictator on a short leash.  It is certainly not in their interest to let him attack China's biggest consumer of their goods (us).

In the old days, war talk sold newspapers - today, it creates viewership and generates clicks.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose (the more things change, the more they stay the same)

Blessings,

-Ed

If the poll was about how much people know or what they think the chances are that we are going to take military action, then you would have a point.   This poll simply asks people if they favor military action or not.  So..., the poll isn't meaningless based on what it was designed to ascertain.

[SavedByGrace1980]

1 minute ago, shiloh357 said:

If the poll was about how much people know or what they think the chances are that we are going to take military action, then you would have a point.   This poll simply asks people if they favor military action or not.  So..., the poll isn't meaningless based on what it was designed to ascertain.

Okay, let's try it this way.

As I said, I know nothing about the situation other than what I see and hear on the news.  So, if I were polled, at this point in time I would be one of the 39 percent who do not favor military action.

But why is that?

Is it because I am a pacifist and oppose all wars?  No, I am not a pacifist.  I believe some wars - though terrible -are justified.

Is it because I have my head buried in the sand and choose to ignore a viable threat like N. Korea?  No, I contend that N. Korea needs to be dealt with.  But 'dealt with' can mean a lot of things.  Essentially the best way to 'deal with' a threat is to render it no longer a threat, and to do so with as little collateral damage as possible.  Most high-ranking military leaders - Generals and Admirals - hate war.  The good ones diligently plan for war, but see war as a last resort - only to be used when all other options have been tried and failed.

I would be in the 39 percent (at this point in time) because I have confidence that things are going on behind the scenes that will 'deal with' the N. Korean dictator - things that the public and the media is not privy to.

Perhaps 'meaningless' is not the right word, because I suppose the data is reasonably accurate (as accurate as polls can be these days).  But to me, it's a 'so-what?' factor.  It's kind of like the popular vote in presidential elections.  

Candidate A won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote and the election.  Interesting - but so what?

Blessings,

-Ed

 

[Guest shiloh357]

2 hours ago, SavedByGrace1981 said:

Okay, let's try it this way.

As I said, I know nothing about the situation other than what I see and hear on the news.  So, if I were polled, at this point in time I would be one of the 39 percent who do not favor military action.

But why is that?

Is it because I am a pacifist and oppose all wars?  No, I am not a pacifist.  I believe some wars - though terrible -are justified.

Is it because I have my head buried in the sand and choose to ignore a viable threat like N. Korea?  No, I contend that N. Korea needs to be dealt with.  But 'dealt with' can mean a lot of things.  Essentially the best way to 'deal with' a threat is to render it no longer a threat, and to do so with as little collateral damage as possible.  Most high-ranking military leaders - Generals and Admirals - hate war.  The good ones diligently plan for war, but see war as a last resort - only to be used when all other options have been tried and failed.

I would be in the 39 percent (at this point in time) because I have confidence that things are going on behind the scenes that will 'deal with' the N. Korean dictator - things that the public and the media is not privy to.

Perhaps 'meaningless' is not the right word, because I suppose the data is reasonably accurate (as accurate as polls can be these days).  But to me, it's a 'so-what?' factor.  It's kind of like the popular vote in presidential elections.  

Candidate A won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote and the election.  Interesting - but so what?

Blessings,

-Ed

 

I understand that.   But the poll is based on the information we have heard from top military leaders in our nation who say that N Korea is a real threat.   The fact that we don't have all of the intelligence they have is irrelevant to this poll.   The poll simply wants to know how Americans feel about military action based on the information our leaders in the military have given us thus far.    It's not any more complicated than that. 

[MorningGlory]

It's my hope, God willing, that military action won't be necessary.  Whether it is, or not, is up to the North Koreans.

[Running Gator]

1 minute ago, MorningGlory said:

It's my hope, God willing, that military action won't be necessary.  Whether it is, or not, is up to the North Koreans.

As the old saying goes it takes two to tango

[MorningGlory]

7 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

As the old saying goes it takes two to tango

Yes, and I doubt if Washington will remain seated if Kim wants to dance.  Like I said, it's up to them. 

[Running Gator]

7 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Yes, and I doubt if Washington will remain seated if Kim wants to dance.  Like I said, it's up to them. 

So, you are saying that our actions are being dictated by Kim?