misogyny

[Running Gator]

5 minutes ago, worthy said:

Ok,can we use that woman instead of the women pastor as an example?

Works for me.  

[Kindle]

1 minute ago, Running Gator said:

Works for me.  

thanks

[Wolf Bridges]

4 hours ago, creativemechanic said:

Can anyone explain to me exactly what his word means, because it seems that  originally while it started out as a term to  refer to a hatred of women it now refers to anything said by a man about anything related to women

I agree with going by the original definition if you want to actual meaning of the word. People are able to capture anything else they wish under that caption in order to use it as a charge against someones opinion. But the actual meaning of the word itself isn't abrogated by those efforts.

People can say that claiming women aren't fit for the pastors seat, an example from this thread, is misogyny. When that can be the underlying motive in someone who says that, it isn't actually what the embodies the meaning of the word misogyny itself. 

 

[OneLight]

2 hours ago, Churchmouse said:

It was an explanation to why the topic has become reliant in today's world.  How many times have you heard the right using the term misogyny

You opened the door to politics when you pointed to the "left", which is why it was removed.  If you had left out that reference, I am sure no posts would of been removed as nobody would have a reason to discuss politics.

[Guest]

I believe we should go with the strict definition of the word misogyny itself and not rely on how politics choose to define it. I believe the left and right will try to use this word to defend their views on what a woman and man should be defined as well as the basic loss of rights of that sex (male or female). Too me, today's misogyny is more like taking human rights away from men instead of addressing real abuses against women, as we see in todays' Muslim world. For example the left will uphold Islamic radicalism in their treatment of women, yet castigate men for wanting to simply be men. It's the craziness of the world as we see it. That's why to me it's better to rely on strict definitions and not on changing world views.

[OneLight]

2 hours ago, Happinessity said:

It's naive and ignorant and arrogant. 

Scripture shows us who can and cannot be leaders in the church.  If you disagree with what is said, you are calling the writers of scripture naive and ignorant and arrogant.  You realize this, don't you?

[missmuffet]

Question: "Is there misogyny in the Bible? What is a misogynist?"

Answer: A misogynist is a person who hates or looks down on women. The term misogyny generally refers to attitudes and behaviors that degrade, insult, or abuse women on the basis of their gender. Examples of misogyny would be treating women as morally or intellectually inferior to men, allowing for female abuse, or referring to women using hateful or abusive language. Critics of Christianity sometimes claim there is misogyny in the Bible, but such claims are contradicted by both the Scriptures and history.

Unfortunately, those seeking to expose misogyny in the Bible often use the same misguided approach as those seeking to justify misogyny with the Bible. That is, they tear single verses from their immediate context, force modern cultural conventions onto ancient cultures, and neglect the overall message being put forward. Worse, they ignore the profoundly positive effect biblical Christianity has had for women worldwide.

A simple consideration of context eliminates most claims of misogyny in the Bible. A perfect example of this is Ephesians 5:22–24, which says wives are to submit to their husbands “as to the Lord.” Critics and misogynists alike prefer to cite those words—out of context—to support the claim that the Bible teaches women are to be subjugated to men. However, the very next words command husbands to love their wives “just as Christ loved the church” (Ephesians 5:25) and to love them “as their own bodies,” providing and caring for them just as Christ does for His church (Ephesians 5:28–30). Considering that Christ acted as a servant to His disciples (John 13:5) and commanded us to do the same (John 13:13–16)—even sacrificing His life for their sake (John 15:12–14)—it’s impossible to justify a misogynist interpretation of Ephesians 5.

Misogyny is diametrically opposed to the teaching of the Bible. According to Scripture, all people are absolutely equal in the eyes of God regardless of gender, race, and ability (Galatians 3:28). Further, women were treated as valued and respected persons both by Christ and the early church. Jesus rescued a guilty woman from her accusers (John 8:9–11), was referred to as “teacher” by Mary and Martha (John 11:28), and openly taught the woman at the well (John 4:9–10), in defiance of social pressures. The early church not only attracted women followers (Acts 8:12; 17:12), but many of them were instrumental in the proclamation of the gospel (Philippians 4:3).

In many ways, the Bible countered the truly misogynistic treatment of women in ancient times, and the effects of this radical worldview are reflected in history. Those criticizing the Bible for its attitude toward women should consider the status of women in the pagan cultures of the Old Testament, New Testament, and early church eras. Even in our modern era, one has only to contrast the status of women living in nations with a Christian heritage to those living in nations without it. Likewise, one should consider the horrific misogyny of industries such as pornography and the sex trade, both of which exist in direct opposition to biblical commands.

As with many other social issues, biblical Christianity lays a foundation leading inescapably to ideas such as value, equality, and freedom for women. Ethics rooted in a Christian worldview have resulted in levels of female equality and opportunity that non-Christian cultures have either never offered or have only considered under pressure from cultures with a Christian background.

It’s also important to note the difference between misogyny described and misogyny endorsed. Books of history may detail the horrors of the Holocaust and the black plague, but we don’t see this as the publisher’s approval of Hitler or epidemic disease. There are certainly descriptions of misogyny in the Bible, but those acts are condemned. One example is the rape and murder of the concubine in Judges 19:25–29, an act so appalling that it sparked a civil war. Critics of the Bible eagerly point to such incidents without mentioning that the act in question is described and decried, not encouraged.

Likewise, questions about misogyny in the Bible need to be separated from whether or not men have attempted to hijack Scripture to justify their prejudice. Men have also, at times, attempted to bolster misogyny using science, history, and even national laws, even when such interpretations are ridiculous. Neither the Israelites, Jesus, nor the early Christian church exhibited misogyny, and the Bible’s ethical framework leaves no room for it. In this way, the Bible cannot be blamed for misogyny or used to justify it. If anything, the need to tear Scripture from its context and twist its meaning shows the opposite: in order to claim misogyny in the Bible, one has to divorce passages from the rest of the text and from Christianity itself.

https://www.gotquestions.org/misogyny-Bible.html

[Guest]

Yes there is definitely misogyny in the Bible but it is not endorsed.

[OneLight]

This is no different then the word misandrist.  People will use words to describe their dislike for one gender or the other.  Yet, women who do not want to be under their husband in marriage are not misandrist, they just don't agree with Gods plan.  Men who do not want women in combat are not misogynist, they really don't think a women in battle would work in the field.  In either case, one gender does not hate or demean the other.

[Wolf Bridges]

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 3:7 7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.