Chip Ingram in his "spiritual warfare"

[babyroses]

with Chip Ingram

Series: The Invisible War - Part 4

Spiritual Warfare 401: How to Gain Deliverance

from Demonic Influence

Selected Scriptures

C. The Cause(s) Of Demonic Influence

[babyroses]

anyway...... i have multipule personality disorder. if i have deamons, how can i have a personal relationship with God? mr. ingram won't answer my e-mails.

would i be afraid of God and prayer, and the bible, and won't i be sick with sin if i had demons?

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is this a dumb question? no one is answering it.

[babyroses]

well i think he's wrong. i read all of his series on spiritual warefare and i belived all of it... but this part about plit personalities being demon possesed. i'm so angery that he said that. i see nothing in the bible that says or describes it. i think that statement could hurt alot of mentally ill people. GGGrrrr!!!! i'm very positive i don't have demons in me. i know i get tempted and taunted, like Romans says and need spititual armor. so how can i be pocessed? *cries*

[Shane]

Hi Babyroses

I am with you, he just seems to be another of those that does not know how to handle the bible properly. There is so much of this sutff around its quite sad.

[Leonard]

Babykisses:

What do we mean by demon-possession? The Scriptures don't really use that phraseology in the original languages. The best translation for the word used is probably 'demoned' or 'demonized.'

It simply means 'to be affected by demons.' In the final analysis, all who suffer are affected by the evil one, are they not?

[larryt]

Isn't it interesting that we do not apply a simple remedy for problems. Jesus cast out demons from many, sometimes spending whole days doing this. The problem as I see it is that whenever God does something good for people the evil one tries to mimic it to hide it in the forest so to say.

To get past the terminology is the first step. It is not "possessed" as Leonard stated but demonized, and to what degree is contained in the word from minor to severe.

By the way Jesus never cast any demons out of anyone who did not want them cast out. The pharisees, of your father the devil, never were delivered.

LT

[babyroses]

Isn't it interesting that we do not apply a simple remedy for problems.  Jesus cast out demons from many, sometimes spending whole days doing this.  The problem as I see it is that whenever God does something good for people the evil one tries to mimic it to hide it in the forest so to say.

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what do you mean? it sounds like you are saying that i'm not giving God credit for saving me/ and that that is deamonized or whatever.

i left out a referance Mr. Ingram suggested: