Guest shiloh357 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 The Department of Health and Human Services has published a draft of a new strategic plan that states in its introduction that life begins at conception. The personhood of the unborn child is central to the abortion debate — as even the justice who wrote the landmark Roe v. Wade opinion has acknowledged — because, if established in law, it would nullify a “right” to abortion. The largely overlooked HHS strategic plan for 2018-22 states the agency “accomplishes its mission through programs and initiatives that cover a wide spectrum of activities, serving and protecting Americans at every stage of life, beginning at conception.” Read more at: http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/trump-administration-life-begins-at-conception/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Obviously, President Trump is correct when he says life begins at conception, and the article rightly mentions that Hillary said that unborn babies have no Constitutional rights. Even she recognizes they are babies, but she has no regard for them. This is very positive, having the President take this position. I applaud the President for standing up for life at all stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, eileenhat said: I did go to God in prayer regarding this topic, ie. whether a women can abort an unborn fetus and if so when? He said "when the women knows she is pregnant', then it is too late to abort or risk a sin. Science states that a women becomes aware she is pregnant at six weeks. http:// http://www.livestrong.com/article/516638-how-soon-can-a-pregnant-woman-feel-changes-in-her-body/ God didn't say that to you. A baby is a baby at the moment of conception. Abortion at any point is a sin, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 3 hours ago, eileenhat said: I did go to God in prayer regarding this topic, ie. whether a women can abort an unborn fetus and if so when? He said "when the women knows she is pregnant', then it is too late to abort or risk a sin. Science states that a women becomes aware she is pregnant at six weeks. http:// http://www.livestrong.com/article/516638-how-soon-can-a-pregnant-woman-feel-changes-in-her-body/ All one has to do to know when life begins is look at Jeremiah chapter one. God said that he knew the prophet before he created him in the womb. Life begins at conception and before that in the mind of God. Still, I get your point. You wouldn't seek an abortion till you know you are pregnant, and if you get one after you know you are expecting, it is a sin. Still, Shiloh is right about when life begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2017 Um planb the abortion drug the morning after pill is used when you think you might be pregnant, or to be sure you are not. So a woman can seek an abortion without knowing she is pregnant. Which is still a sin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 7 hours ago, ayin jade said: Um planb the abortion drug the morning after pill is used when you think you might be pregnant, or to be sure you are not. So a woman can seek an abortion without knowing she is pregnant. Which is still a sin. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2017 This is a good step. I do belive that science is on the side of the pro-life cause and this will help further that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2017 14 hours ago, eileenhat said: I did go to God in prayer regarding this topic, ie. whether a women can abort an unborn fetus and if so when? He said "when the women knows she is pregnant', then it is too late to abort or risk a sin. Science states that a women becomes aware she is pregnant at six weeks. http:// http://www.livestrong.com/article/516638-how-soon-can-a-pregnant-woman-feel-changes-in-her-body/ I seriously doubt that God told you that. Life begins at conception and a woman would not know she was pregnant in that instant. Not every voice we hear is the Lord and we should reject anything that doesn't line up with Scripture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3L13v3R Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,261 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 1,035 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2017 15 hours ago, eileenhat said: I did go to God in prayer regarding this topic, ie. whether a women can abort an unborn fetus and if so when? Medical Testimonies on life's beginning, a portion from Abort73 :Expert Testimony Relating to Life's Beginning "In 1981, a United States Senate judiciary subcommittee received the following testimony from a collection of medical experts (Subcommittee on Separation of Powers to Senate Judiciary Committee S-158, Report, 97th Congress, 1st Session, 1981): "It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive...It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception." Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth Harvard University Medical School "I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception." Dr. Alfred M. Bongioanni Professor of Pediatrics and Obstetrics, University of Pennsylvania "After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being. [It] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion...it is plain experimental evidence. Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception." Dr. Jerome LeJeune Professor of Genetics, University of Descartes "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." Professor Hymie Gordon Mayo Clinic "The beginning of a single human life is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matter – the beginning is conception." Dr. Watson A. Bowes University of Colorado Medical SchoolThe official Senate report reached this conclusion: Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being - a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 7:07 PM, shiloh357 said: God didn't say that to you. A baby is a baby at the moment of conception. Abortion at any point is a sin, period. Yes, and there are some forms of birth control which abort. A person who is using birth control may not even know this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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