notsolostsoul Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 419 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, shiloh357 said: No, the differences are not small. If they are bring sinners to Christ and leading him to his teachings. Why the hate? We bring them to Christ, he does the rest to save them. Mark 9:38-41King James Version (KJV) 38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part. 41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward. He saves not us. He condemns and judges justly. Not Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said: If they are bring sinners to Christ and leading him to his teachings. Why the hate? They are not bringing anyone Christ. That's the point and no one hates anyone. Quote We bring them to Christ, he does the rest to save them. But many churches teach false gospel and that doesn't bring them to the Lord. Quote He saves not us. He condemns and judges justly. Not Man. You appear to be trying to refute an argument that no one has raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, it's just that they know false doctrine when they see it and do not want to be "brothers" with those who promote false teachings. Sadly, you just PROVED the topic's validity while showing yourself up. Legalism is using the gospel without the Holy Spirit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsolostsoul Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 419 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 12 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Quote He saves not us. He condemns and judges justly. Not Man. You appear to be trying to refute an argument that no one has raised. The quote I made was a statement, not anything to do with an argument. Funny how some may see it as a problem. I did not direct it towards anyone in particular. I am speaking in general as a Christ follower, hoping others will hear Christ in his own words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: Sadly, you just PROVED the topic's validity while showing yourself up. Legalism is using the gospel without the Holy Spirit. No. No one abiding in Christ is to be in fellowship with idolators who reject His Word willingly and continually. If they do not repent after appropriate warning, as most of them never do, ever, then they are not to be fellowshipped with , according to God's Word. Why would you think to change God's Word any way? Have you found something better !?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said: The quote I made was a statement, not anything to do with an argument. Funny how some may see it as a problem. I did not direct it towards anyone in particular. I am speaking in general as a Christ follower, hoping others will hear Christ in his own words. I spoke to your quote in the context of the conversation about your false perception of hate between churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: They are not bringing anyone Christ. That's the point and no one hates anyone. But many churches teach false gospel and that doesn't bring them to the Lord. You appear to be trying to refute an argument that no one has raised. The first 3 sentences are the main facts. The fourth is as it may "appear", regardless of fact or not. If it is not a fact, it may still appear to be. 6 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said: The quote I made was a statement, not anything to do with an argument. Funny how some may see it as a problem. I did not direct it towards anyone in particular. I am speaking in general as a Christ follower, hoping others will hear Christ in his own words. Just like "hoping" often may turn out to not be a fact to hope in. The importance is that so many visitors reading the forum (and some number of members long time) are already following a false gospel "hoping" it will turn out okay, but it never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: Sadly, you just PROVED the topic's validity while showing yourself up. Legalism is using the gospel without the Holy Spirit. No, I didn't. I don't hate anyone, not even you. But I will not be aligned with false teaching. This has nothing to do with legalism. You don't even know what legalism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, simplejeff said: No. No one abiding in Christ is brother with idolators who reject His Word willingly and continually. If they do not repent after appropriate warning, as most of them never do, ever, then they are not to be fellowshipped with , according to God's Word. Why would you think to change God's Word any way? Have you found something better !?!? Definitely agree there. Sadly though, some use their power to attempt 'excommunication' because they think another is an heretic. This has been going on forever. Christians that have Truth, have no need of man as a judge. However, some who read these words will be confused by Christians that call another 'Raca'. Rather than post the articles on the church doors of those they ought to, they belittle anyone that does not see things their way, or that does not agree with them. The risen Lord Yeshua is judge of all men. Christians are only called to judge in the circumstances that are scripturally set, not as one-liners with no backing or agreement from the various assemblies. This just causes division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 hours ago, notsolostsoul said: Why so much HATE? So what is this hate you are speaking of. Could you give an example. What you consider as hate, some may consider it as false doctrines and therefore does not fellowship with those. Does not mean that they are hated. I do not hold to the teachings of the rcc, but i do not hate those who congregate there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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