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Hi there,

what about THE PRIMACY OF JESUS CHRIST?

The Lord JESUS CHRIST said I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH..HE DIDN'T SAY TO PETER:"You will build my church" I mean,I could go in the greek text or even the latin and prove you wrong......now the point is that if you are aborn again son of God you will want bow to THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and nobody else......what to say?

Love in Christ

Shalom

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Dear jc49,

As Fiosh has rightly pointed out Jesus has primacy above all, He is God and no one is above Him. My respond is to the primacy of St. Peter amongst the Apostles.

As to your assertion I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH....... that has been answered and explained by Fiosh in previous threads, please go back and read them.

Here is further explanation from the same article by The Catholic Treasure Chest:

Is Peter "Rock", or is he only a "pebble"?

Protestants charge that Peter is not the "rock" because the Greek word used for "rock" in this verse means a little pebble. Right away, it is obvious from the very beginning, that there is a translation problem here. Scholars have determined that Matthew was not written in Greek, but in Aramaic, and was soon translated into Greek, so we have to go to the original written language to find the true meaning of this verse.

Peter was called "Cephas" or "Kepha(s)" in Aramaic, by Christ in Matthew 16:18, and it means a large massive stone or rock. Christ said this at Caesarea Philippi, the site of a large rock mass. See Matthew 16:13. The Aramaic word for a small stone or pebble is "evna". "Kepha", when translated to the Greek language means "Petra" (a large rock) or "Petros" (a small stone). However, unlike Aramaic words which have no gender, Greek words do have gender, and "Petra" is feminine. Translators from the Aramaic to the Greek, changed the word to the masculine gender or "Petros" because they were unwilling to assign a name with feminine gender to a man.

In Matthew 16:18, it is correct to say that Jesus would have said, "You are 'Kepha', and upon this 'Kepha', I will build My Church." In Greek, it would translate to, "You are 'Petros', and upon this 'Petra', I will build My Church." It was the translation of the Aramaic word, "Kepha" (Cephas), into the Greek language that caused the confusion among some who look upon Peter as not being called "rock", but only a "pebble".

Matthew 16:13, 18, John 1:42, 1Corinthians 1:12, 3:22, 9:5, 15:5, Galatians 2:8-9

Detractors argue that Peter could not be the rock because GOD is, 2Samuel 22:2. Well, not only does Scripture call Peter the rock, but it also calls Abraham the rock, in Isaiah 51:1-2. Also, who is the Light of the World? Jesus Christ is in John 8:12, but yet the Disciples are in Matthew 5:14.

The words "Rock" and "Light of the World" are not limited to describe GOD alone.

Regrettably links to any Catholic Apologetic sites are not allowed for whatever reasons, and being new I am yet to learn the rule and regulation governing this chat-site.

[jc49]

Hi there,

what about THE PRIMACY OF JESUS CHRIST?

The Lord JESUS CHRIST said I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH..HE DIDN'T SAY TO PETER:"You will build my church" I mean,I could go in the greek text or even the latin and prove you wrong......now the point is that if you are aborn again son of God you will want bow to THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and nobody else......what to say?

Love in Christ

Shalom

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Dear jc49,

As Fiosh has rightly pointed out Jesus has primacy above all, He is God and no one is above Him. My respond is to the primacy of St. Peter amongst the Apostles.

As to your assertion I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH....... that has been answered and explained by Fiosh in previous threads, please go back and read them.

Here is further explanation from the same article by The Catholic Treasure Chest:

Is Peter "Rock", or is he only a "pebble"?

Protestants charge that Peter is not the "rock" because the Greek word used for "rock" in this verse means a little pebble. Right away, it is obvious from the very beginning, that there is a translation problem here. Scholars have determined that Matthew was not written in Greek, but in Aramaic, and was soon translated into Greek, so we have to go to the original written language to find the true meaning of this verse.

Peter was called "Cephas" or "Kepha(s)" in Aramaic, by Christ in Matthew 16:18, and it means a large massive stone or rock. Christ said this at Caesarea Philippi, the site of a large rock mass. See Matthew 16:13. The Aramaic word for a small stone or pebble is "evna". "Kepha", when translated to the Greek language means "Petra" (a large rock) or "Petros" (a small stone). However, unlike Aramaic words which have no gender, Greek words do have gender, and "Petra" is feminine. Translators from the Aramaic to the Greek, changed the word to the masculine gender or "Petros" because they were unwilling to assign a name with feminine gender to a man.

In Matthew 16:18, it is correct to say that Jesus would have said, "You are 'Kepha', and upon this 'Kepha', I will build My Church." In Greek, it would translate to, "You are 'Petros', and upon this 'Petra', I will build My Church." It was the translation of the Aramaic word, "Kepha" (Cephas), into the Greek language that caused the confusion among some who look upon Peter as not being called "rock", but only a "pebble".

Matthew 16:13, 18, John 1:42, 1Corinthians 1:12, 3:22, 9:5, 15:5, Galatians 2:8-9

Detractors argue that Peter could not be the rock because GOD is, 2Samuel 22:2. Well, not only does Scripture call Peter the rock, but it also calls Abraham the rock, in Isaiah 51:1-2. Also, who is the Light of the World? Jesus Christ is in John 8:12, but yet the Disciples are in Matthew 5:14.

The words "Rock" and "Light of the World" are not limited to describe GOD alone.

Regrettably links to any Catholic Apologetic sites are not allowed for whatever reasons, and being new I am yet to learn the rule and regulation governing this chat-site.

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Dear friend and all Rcc friends here on this board and all over the world,urbi et orbi,lend me your ears :cool:1st Peter:

Chapter 2

1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, all evil speakings,

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

Chapter 2

1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, all evil speakings,

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Isa 28:16 Rom 9:33

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

Ps 118:22 Matt 21:42 Mark 12:10 Luke 20:17 Acts 4:11 Eph 2:20

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

Isa 8:14 Rom 9:33

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

Ps 118:22 Matt 21:42 Mark 12:10 Luke 20:17 Acts 4:11 Eph 2:20

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

Isa 8:14 Rom 9:33

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Halloooo..Who is laying what? and Where?God is laying a STONE in SION ,READ PLEASE:

Chapter 2

1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, all evil speakings,

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Isa 28:16 Rom 9:33

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

Ps 118:22 Matt 21:42 Mark 12:10 Luke 20:17 Acts 4:11 Eph 2:20

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

Isa 8:14 Rom 9:33

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

After this I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY but that I expect to meet with brother Pietro in heaven and together with him and other lost sinners saved BY JESUS THE ETERNAL ROCK OF AGES and just bathe in the beauty of THE LORD while WORSHIPPING HIM in TOTAL FREEDOM,because HE IS WORTHY TO BE PRAISED in saecula saeculorum because HE,JESUS CHRIST IS MAGNIFICENT,HE JESUS CHRIST THE TRUE "PONTIFEX MAXIMUS" WHO BUILD THE BRIDGE between me,dirty,horrible evil slimy sinner and has washed me with HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD and I will sing for ever and ever to HIM,FATHER SON and HOLY SPIRIT and HIM ALONE,FREE FROM ALL THIS HORRIBLE RELIGIOUS PARAPHERNALIA that satan and his followers have created here on earth,in Rome as in New york or here in noosa australia,this disgusting pantomime that makes me sick,yes,sick,because if one wants to worship the creature instead of THE CREATOR,well GOOD LUCK,I WANT TO WORSHIP GOD,no Peter neither Angels nor madonnas of multicoloured skins,neither I want smell incense or candles neither I want be involved with the big theatre going on in the apostate RCC or modern day ecumenical evangelical) so to say) community. I AM SICK of this false gospel,like Peter,I want to worship JESUS.

I am one hundred per cent sure that brother Peter would find ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING what puny men are doing using THE NAME of THE LORD IN VAIN and giving him,the fisherman glory and honour that He gave to CHRIST and tells us to do the sdame,but....twisting the scriptures is a speciality of the enemy,I have been taught by THE HOLY SPIRIT,that same HOLY SPIRIT that JESUS THE ROCK promised to every believer that would LEAD THEM IN ALL TRUTH not IN LIESSSSSSSSSS!

And that';s it!

Now,if I get chucked out from this boards it is ok,because I have been denouncing THE SCANDALOUS STUFF that is going on in the world about the DOCTRINES OF DEMONS of this end times and that JESUS IS COMING BACK to TAKE HIS CHURCH,BOUGHT WITH HIS BLOOD and BUILD BY HIM ON HIMSELF and when JESUS COMES we better,we bettter WE BETTER BE FOUND UNDER HIS BLOOD....because little baby Jesus in the manger with the donkey and the ox is COMING ON A WHITE HORSE and HIS VEST is dipped in BLOOD

Revelation 1

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

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Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

I hope with all my heart that you get saved and quick

SHALOM and MARANATHA!

[Ovedya]

Enough is enough, is enough, is enough....