BigJer Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 164 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2005 The Lord does tell us with absolute certainty who the beast is. Yeah, that's why everyone is in such agreement and understanding of who the beast is. Not! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I too would like to see who the beast is. Sure would solve all mystery, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolineS Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 414 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 30, 2005 OK. Let's take a look at the Book of Revelation. We have a lamb, a white horse, a red horse, a black horse, a pale horse, we have souls under the alter, (does God really keep souls under His alter?), we have two witnesses, a woman clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet, a garland of twelve stars, a red dragon with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads, a beast rising up out of the sea, a beast rising up out of the earth with two horns like a lamb, we have a mark, we have three angels flying in the air, we have angels with sharp sickles gathering grape clusters of the vine of the earth,........I could go on. You state that you see the Bible as very clear what God said, even a child can understand it. Can you tell me what God is telling you in Rev. 13? Let's just look at one chapter to start with. Then you can take us through the rest of the chapters, since it is so clear to you. In Christ, CarolineS CarolineS Sanctyfied Just because you cannot see them, does not mean they do not exist. Symbols H'mmm Is that of God? Does God like confusion? Does The Almighty God the One Who created ALL things, not have Angels? How big do you think they are? Like us? lol How can we limit God? That is not for us to do. Sorry. I believe God set us examples all throughout the entire Bible. Not symbols. If you want these things explained to you. You must ask God and Listen. Not man. Jesus said I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. If you want the right answer CarolineS, You have to ask Him. ohh and make sure you listen too. He tends to talk gently. Ohh one more thing. Jesus also says My sheep Know My Voice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm still waiting for your understanding of Revelation 13. CarolineS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctyfied Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2005 Sanctyfied CarolineS God created us as well as them. pale horse, red horse whatever. What did John see? exactly what he saw. I hope your not one of those that take away the New Testiment from the Old If you want to interput Revelations. You have to go back to the Old testiment The Old Prophets tolds us in detail what would happen. There is a spiritual world that is not seen by people who don't want to see it or just can't handle it. I take the Bible literally not symbolicly. There are many examples. But for that you would have to do alot of reading with me. Or you just won't get it. I'm not here to argue just giving my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolineS Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 414 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 30, 2005 Sanctyfied CarolineS God created us as well as them. pale horse, red horse whatever. What did John see? exactly what he saw. I hope your not one of those that take away the New Testiment from the Old If you want to interput Revelations. You have to go back to the Old testiment The Old Prophets tolds us in detail what would happen. There is a spiritual world that is not seen by people who don't want to see it or just can't handle it. I take the Bible literally not symbolicly. There are many examples. But for that you would have to do alot of reading with me. Or you just won't get it. I'm not here to argue just giving my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Still waiting for your understanding of Rev. 13. In Christ, CarolineS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctyfied Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2005 (edited) lol If you really want to know my view. I would like to see your view first. How do you explain it? But be prepared to do some reading. Edited May 30, 2005 by Sanctyfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Well, let's take this verse "literally": Rev. 12:1 - A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars on her head. Wow! That must be some woman who can be clothed with the sun and not vaporize, has legs long enough to stretch to the moon for her feet to be upon, and have her neck stretch far enough that 12 other stars light years away can be upon her head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehut Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,216 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/24/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/16/1962 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Alright guys, all you conspiracy theorists out there. Got a question for ya. Suppose you could tell me, with absolute certainty, who the Beast is. And suppose that you could tell me, with absolute certainty, that Jesus would return at 2 pm next Tuesday. What should I start doing now, that I'm not supposed to be doing already? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nobody wants to answer my q? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,277 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,010 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2005 Now that creates a bit of an unusual mental picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted May 30, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Thessalonians 2 : 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Is this an individual or is it any man filled with pride? As Jesus described our body as a temple and pride only displaces God in the temple and unGodly people have this notion that they are their own gods, I would think this description of the anti christ is prideful man in general. Am I light years behind in my thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctyfied Posted June 1, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 1, 2005 (edited) Well, let's take this verse "literally": Rev. 12:1 - A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars on her head. Wow! That must be some woman who can be clothed with the sun and not vaporize, has legs long enough to stretch to the moon for her feet to be upon, and have her neck stretch far enough that 12 other stars light years away can be upon her head. That is quiet a picture huh? lol that would be the example part not a symbol. I don't see any symbols there. lol That is an example of the Catholic church at least to me. It describes her perfectly Edited June 1, 2005 by Sanctyfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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