nebula Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 11, 2005 As a side note, the thing about the beat of the music is that it appeals to the desires of the flesh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How does a beat "appeal to the desires of the flesh"? Got a Scripture to go with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truesunn Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1975 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'm sorry dear friends, but as a trained classical musician, a "beat" in and of itself is in no way sinful, nor is there anything in the Bible that states this...The reason maybe some persons feel it's "evil" is that it they subconciously connect it with maybe a song they have heard previously, or a band, that produces questionable material. Have you ever really sat and listened to classical? Appealing to the desires of the flesh? Hmmm... It's some of the most romantic music available if you ask me, so if we use this theory stated above, then classical music is sinful as well because it gets some people "in the mood"... I find nothing wrong with any "beat" or "genre" that glorifies the Lord with the lyrics. I have also said before, Christian Rock can reach a whole flock of unbelievers that maybe other things wouldn't have. Christian Rock can be a blessing for new converts that previously played secular music, who still enjoy making music, but not the previous with questionable messages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bro Davidâ„¢ Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'm sorry dear friends, but as a trained classical musician, a "beat" in and of itself is in no way sinful, nor is there anything in the Bible that states this...The reason maybe some persons feel it's "evil" is that it they subconciously connect it with maybe a song they have heard previously, or a band, that produces questionable material. Have you ever really sat and listened to classical? Appealing to the desires of the flesh? Hmmm... It's some of the most romantic music available if you ask me, so if we use this theory stated above, then classical music is sinful as well because it gets some people "in the mood"... I find nothing wrong with any "beat" or "genre" that glorifies the Lord with the lyrics. I have also said before, Christian Rock can reach a whole flock of unbelievers that maybe other things wouldn't have. Christian Rock can be a blessing for new converts that previously played secular music, who still enjoy making music, but not the previous with questionable messages... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Truesunn, It is great to have ya back !. Yeah Like what you say, there is no "beat" that cannot be used to worship God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittylover0991 Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Not sure what to think about music.... why is this such a major topic? and why do people argue over it so? Doesn't all this arguing over it just show that many Christians are divided over what the bible says or does not say up front? I wanna say that this topic doesn't matter, but it does because every way we worship God is important... why didn't God just say what was right and wrong about this? (is now in a state of confusion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 11, 2005 He did Kitty. I highly suggest you read the article I linked you to. God intended all things to glorify Him so long as they are not used for evil. By evil I mean for personal glory or sinful reasons. A person playing the guitar simply to play, even with no words, is not doing anything evil. A person playing the guitar in order to get a woman into bed is obviously playing it with evil intentions. It is a case by case thing, not a blanket sin. It's a puritan idea that music is evil...and ironically enough it goes all the way back to the gnostics. Again, I suggest you read the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bukeye2745 Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) This is one of my favorites right now. It's from Mercy Me's most recent cd called Undone. I love this song!! It makes me feel so humbled inside for what Yeshua did for me. He freed me! No apologies For who I'm meant to be The only thing that matters is I am free When I am overwhelmed Holding pieces of my heart When I feel my world Start to fall apart To the cross I run Holding high my chains undone Now I am finally free Free to be what I've become Undone Even in defeat The face of tragedy Still you'd have to say that I found victory In brokenness comes beauty Divine fragility Reminding me of nail scarred hands Reaching out for me To the cross I run Holding high my chains undone Now I am finally free Free to be what I've become To the cross I run Holding high my chains undone Now I am finally free Free to be what I've become Undone Hallelujah I'm undone! To the cross I run Holding high my chains undone Now I am finally free Free to be what I've become To the cross I run Holding high my chains undone Now I am finally free Free to be what I've become Undone To the cross I run To be what I've become And I'm undone Edited June 11, 2005 by bukeye2745 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 11, 2005 All instrumrnts are good. Just don't do the Karaoke thing. That is sinful. A sin against God and Humanity! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimshadyJB Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 122 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1987 Share Posted June 11, 2005 People can listen to whatever music they want to. It's their choice, not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rsm66 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I am new to worthyboards and have just finished reading this topic and all the comments. I have been a christian a little over 2 years and too have wondered about this question of music. After reading all the opinions/comments I too have now made up my mind. There is nothing wrong with christian rock or a certain beat of music as long as it is used to glorify God. Thank you all who did comment on this topic all opinions were very helpful even the ones I did not agree with. rsm66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkest_red Posted June 11, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 885 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/05/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1986 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I actually had a minister tell me that electric guitars were created only to give glory to Satan. I wonder what King David would say about that. He liked stringed instruments.I bet he would have gone electric. Electric guitars were created so guys like Les Paul and Dejango Reinhardt could be heardover the rest of the band. There will be a band in heaven. A good one! Dan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can't beat a good bit of guitar!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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