Jew and Gentile

[M45510G1C]

Seems to me you've got to make a choice.

Either you're a Jew, or you're a Christian. 

I can respect people who make either choice.  But to call yourself Messianic, is just a non-committal fence-sitting that does not glorify God.

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Which was Paul?

[Ahavah]

Hey Ahavah....meet Steve.

He likes to say inflammatory things just to get a reaction. He's actually an OK guy if you can get past that attention-getting device.

Hi steve

[Ahavah]

Seems to me you've got to make a choice.

Either you're a Jew, or you're a Christian. 

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Hmm...Wondering...there are ONLY 2 religions to choose from?

[stevehut]

Howdy 2 u 2, Ahavah...

Yes, I value Yod's recommendation very highly.

[Guest yod]

see what I mean Ahavah?

He's actually pretty cool....just likes to start a "debate" (aka arguement) by saying things that stir people up.

He's out on the left coast like you...but quite a bit south.

So which congregation did you attend, Steve? What got you there and what drove you away?

[Yahsway]

I guess once a Jewish person becomes a believer in Yeshua as Savior/Messiah, that does not make them any less a Jewish person. To me, they are Messianic Jews.

For a gentile to become a believer in Yeshua as Savior/Messiah, same goes for them. A gentile adopted into the covenant.

One new man YES! One new man in the Spirit. Its my experience with some gentile believers that once a Jewish person becomes a believer they must leave behind all their Jewishness so to speak. But this should not be.

Maybe what we are seeing are gentiles moving closer to their brothers the Messianic Jews through learning their Hebrew roots whith tradtional Hebrew worship, learning about the Feasts, the shofar, the Old Testament, And maybe the Jewish people are learning about their gentile brothers/sisters in the same way by learning the New Testament.

I kinda see it as each one of us moving towards one another in love, with Yeshua being that middle ground, instead of moving away from each other.

Yeshua has brought down the wall/partition that sperates us as Jews and Gentiles and bringing us togethere as One New Man in Himself. Anyway, thats how I see whats happening now. Shalom

[jc49]

In the Messianic Movement... I've been noticing alot of people who are either Gentile, and acting Jewish...or they are Jewish, and acting like Gentiles.

It's pretty messy.

Why can't people be happy with who they are.

Why do they try to become something that they aren't. Yeshua never told the Gentile to look like a Jew..nor did he tell the Jew to look like a Gentile.

Both were to believe and follow Yeshua, Jew and Gentile..ONE in Yeshua...NOT seperate themselves again. Why do people do this?

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BECAUSE LIFE IS A ZOO A THEATRE

just kidding

[stevehut]

[Hmm...Wondering...there are ONLY 2 religions to choose from?

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Well, if you're concerned about freedom of choice, I suppose you could move to Japan and be a Shinto...

[stevehut]

Drove me away??

[Ahavah]

I guess once a Jewish person becomes a believer in Yeshua as Savior/Messiah, that does not make them any less a Jewish person. To me, they are Messianic Jews.

For a gentile to become a believer in Yeshua as Savior/Messiah, same goes for them. A gentile adopted into the covenant.

One new man YES! One new man in the Spirit. Its my experience with some gentile believers that once a Jewish person becomes a believer they must leave behind all their Jewishness so to speak. But this should not be.

Maybe what we are seeing are gentiles moving closer to their brothers the Messianic Jews through learning their Hebrew roots whith tradtional Hebrew worship, learning about the Feasts, the shofar, the Old Testament,  And maybe the Jewish people are learning about their gentile brothers/sisters in the same way by learning the New Testament.

I kinda see it as each one of us moving towards one another in love, with Yeshua being that middle ground, instead of moving away from each other.

Yeshua has brought down the wall/partition that sperates us as Jews and Gentiles and bringing us togethere as One New Man in Himself. Anyway, thats how I see whats happening now. Shalom

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I agree.