salvation for the lost

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

The deadline is your decision to Serve the Lord or someone else. Which may include yourself. It's your life, it's your decision.

God told Cain;

Ge

[stevehut]

The deadline is your decision to Serve the Lord or someone else. Which may include yourself. It's your life, it's your decision.

God told Cain; Ge

[Guest shiloh357]

I saked this in another thread. What is the deadline for repentance. How far does God extend his grace? Would God really allow most of His children to suffer eternal damnation? Wouldn't that indicate victory for satan?

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I don't think there is a particular deadline. But certainly, we must believe and repent to be saved.

God doesn't send people to hell. People do, by their own actions/inactions.

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Since there appears to be no deadline, I would just leave it at God doesn't send people to hell

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Again, this is not true. There is a deadline. The deadline is the day of your death. You have until you die to make a decision for Christ. God does not SEND people to hell, but people will go to hell if they reject Christ. The minute you die, it is over, there is no salvation for you, no hope if you are lost. You do not get a second chance after death.

Gerioke, Universalism which is what you are promoting, is a lie. If anyone gets to heaven without faith in Christ, then the death of Christ on the cross was pointless. No one gets to heaven apart from Christ. Jesus is the foundation upon which all Scripture rests. He is the foundation of our faith as Christians. If a person rejects Christ, then there is nothing left for them after death but eternal punishment, and separation from God. Jesus called it "outer darkness, where there is weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth.

If universalism is true, then there was no need for Paul to preach or write epistles. There is no need to preach gospel if there is no consequence for sin. If everyone is ultimately saved, then there is no need for holiness, no need to follow God's commandments, no need to live Christlike lives. There is no need to even believe in God if EVERYONE will go to heaven, ultimately. You are believing a dangerous lie.

[stevehut]

There is a deadline.  The deadline is the day of your death.  You have until you die to make a decision for Christ. 

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OK *ack* fine, you caught me.

I was answering someone who was taunting me by trying to pin me down to exactly how long we have to repent.

[Gerioke]

Gerioke, Universalism which is what you are promoting, is a lie. If anyone gets to heaven without faith in Christ, then the death of Christ on the cross was pointless.

I'm not exactly sure what universalism is , so I wouldn't go so far as to say I promote it. I have stated that I believe some people are lost as some people are totally absorbed by evil.

Matthew 19 : 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it , they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them , and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Where, out of curiosity, Does it say that death is the deadline? I thought Jesus said if we endure till the end.

Rev 22: 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

[Guest shiloh357]

Gerioke, Universalism which is what you are promoting, is a lie. If anyone gets to heaven without faith in Christ, then the death of Christ on the cross was pointless.

I'm not exactly sure what universalism is , so I wouldn't go so far as to say I promote it. I have stated that I believe some people are lost as some people are totally absorbed by evil.

Matthew 19 : 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it , they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them , and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Where, out of curiosity, Does it say that death is the deadline? I thought Jesus said if we endure till the end.

Rev 22: 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

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Here are some things you said:

Would God really allow most of His children to suffer eternal damnation? Wouldn't that indicate victory for satan?

Since there appears to be no deadline, I would just leave it at God doesn't send people to hell

Universalism is the belief that God does not send people to hell, and the idea that everyone will be saved. It appeals to the love of God, and reasons that God would not send anyone to hell since all men are God's children, which the Bible does not say. God does not let any of His children go to hell. But not all men are God's children. All men are God's creation, but only the born again believers are his "children."

You may not realize it, but you are dangerously close to this belief system.

[stevehut]

Universalism is the belief that God does not send people to hell, and the idea that everyone will be saved.

[Guest shiloh357]

Steve, you need to fix your post you are giving the impression that you are quoting me, and you are not. You are quoting Gerioke. I would appreciate it if you would not attribute words to me that I did not say.

[stevehut]

1- Where, out of curiosity, Does it say that death is the deadline? I thought Jesus said if we endure till the end.

2- Rev 22: 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

1- Here: Heb. 9:27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people

2- A wonderful affirmation of free will, if you ask me.

[stevehut]

Done, Shiloh. Oops.